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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:51 pm 
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Next Best Thing wrote:FULL BACKS

BEN COCKAYNE Not good enough, top 6 you need a top class FB, Cockayne isnt and will never be the Class of Webb, Wellens, Mclinden, Reardon, or even Platt
SCOTT MURRELL Not good enough at SL level in his best position, why would he be in a position he never excelled at

WINGERS

JON STEEL Not Good enough
IAN HARDMAN (ST HELENS) not Good enough
LUKE DYER has already proved he isnt good enough
CRAIG HALL (HULL FC) still young and you cant base your attack on a young winger

THREE-QUARTERS

KIRK YEAMAN (HULL FC) Class but doubt you will get him
JON GODDARD Average but would be adequate with a great wing partner or a great centre opposite
ANDREAS BAUER not good enough
KEITH SENIOR (LEEDS RHINOS) was a Great 3 years ago, now average, not even the best centre at Leeds and will be playing second row next season most probably

HALF-BACKS

PAUL COOKE Good enough but not as good as he is made out, needs quality backs to be able to do anything, will never break the line and needs a halfback partner who will complement him by being a line breaker
JAMES WEBSTER, seems adequate but not really the type of player who will bring the best out of Cooke

PROP FORWARDS

MAKALI AIZUE Distinctly average
MICHAEL VELLA Very good
DAVID TANGATA TOA Very average
DANNY WARD Rightly sacked by Leeds, shouldnt have played again, has gone down hill from when he was at Leeds and even then he was only a workhorse and not a star player
STEVE SNITCH (HUDDERSFIELD GIANTS) why would you pick Steve Snitch of all players, average at best

HOOKERS

BEN FISHER OK, probably comparable to Diskin, nowhere near Drew, Cunningham, Roby or Newton though
MARK LENNON as above but not as good as Diskin

SECOND ROWERS

MARK O'NEILL Is 2 games a season worth a quota spot, has he gone travelling round europe again yet
CHRIS CHESTER decent player, Injury plagued though
JASON NETHERTON Not good enough
IAIN MORRISON not good enough
CRAIG FITZGIBBON (SYDNEY CITY ROOSTERS) would be a good signing, other than you will have to pay him more than he is worth to get him over here
DANNY HILL (WIGAN WARRIORS) Average, cant get into a Wigan Pack, which has no cover whatsoever

LOCK FORWARD

TOMMY GALLAGHER Should be moved forward to Prop, i wish good things for Tommy cos he is a very nice guy but he isnt a top 6 SL quality Lock
STANLEY GENE you cant build around Stanley Gene he is at least 103 and cant play forever
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JIM GANNON
BYRON FORD
GARETH MORTON if you want to be top six there will need to be a lot more going out than that






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ANDREAS BAUER not good enough

4 tries in 6 games and a very good defense may suggest otherwise!

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JackoTheRed wrote:ANDREAS BAUER not good enough

4 tries in 6 games and a very good defense may suggest otherwise!


Looks a good player to me aswell! someone earlier reckons he hasn't been training to well lately and thats the reason he hasn't been getting a game recently. Needs more game time, especially as Ford seems to be out of form at the moment.






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Agree!

Would like to see Bauer replace Ford at the moment. If it is the case that he hasnt been training well then i hope he knuckles down quickly, i rate this guy alot!

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Rupert Pupkin wrote:Looks a good player to me aswell! someone earlier reckons he hasn't been training to well lately and thats the reason he hasn't been getting a game recently. Needs more game time, especially as Ford seems to be out of form at the moment.


Yep, he's been rubbish in his one game back from injury! :roll: :lol:

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GJB wrote:Yep, he's been rubbish in his one game back from injury! :roll: :lol:


Ford has been making plenty of mistakes in recent games especially the game at MM, and I am a big fan of the Major of Flair!






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JackoTheRed wrote:ANDREAS BAUER not good enough

4 tries in 6 games and a very good defense may suggest otherwise!


wow 6 whole games at first grade level at the age of 24

Bauer not as good as

harris
hape
evans
wilson
mogg
pelo
bosc
sykes
loleesi
elford
yeaman
domic
toopi
gibson
senior
moule
wilshere
talau
gidley
atkins
gleeson
johnson
bailey
vaealiki

24 better centres in this league






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FFS Smokey, what do you expect in our first season in SL? We are trying to build for the future, we have alot of players in which this is their first season in SL. Whoever is promoted from NL1 are way behind teams in SL in terms of recruitment. You can, but I think it's a little early to be judging players with only half a SL seasons experience in them.






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Rupert Pupkin wrote:FFS Smokey, what do you expect in our first season in SL? We are trying to build for the future, we have alot of players in which this is their first season in SL. Whoever is promoted from NL1 are way behind teams in SL in terms of recruitment. You can, but I think it's a little early to be judging players with only half a SL seasons experience in them.


Is this thread about what you needed to be top 6 or not
Bauer isnt good enough for top 6






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Not often I agree with B&W's but to be a top 6 side we need to change a good 60% of our squad. Too many people treat the players at this club at a level way above what they actually are.

If JM was given cart blanche to sign a squad within a full salary cap, he would probably keep no more than half a dozen of the current squad. He built a squad to get us out of NL1 and to be the nucleus of a squad to KEEP US UP and to do this he has had to bring in several players that were 'available' but probably not his first choice. If we do stay up we are going to have to recruit heavily for next season as ALL the other clubs will be as well.

Next years recruitment will be key to survival again as it will be at least 5 yrs before we can hope to challenge for a top 6 place.

JM said in an interview before the season started that his three year plan was to survive, consolidate and challenge. I think it will be survive, survive and franchise, then we can look at pushing on.






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