I'll be back for at least two weeks from December 21, exactly how long depends on what I've decided to do with my life.

I reccomend we go for a curry. It'll help put things into perspective.

It appears that of your 10 posts on this thread 8 of them expound superlatives for Omar's and to a lesser extent the Karachi with only a grudging acceptance of the Mumtaz, Habib's and the Praashad.

None have a rational critique for the above mentioned Agraah, Akhbars and the 3 Singhs that you decry which stongly supports the view that you have never been to any of them. Indeed your post of 26/9 states that it is many years since you have been to one of them.

If you only hold a presumptiion that superb service in these and other well run restaurants is based wholly on false subservience then you are doing them a great discredit. You might want to examine your own perception of this. What you think you see might be what you want to see.

1) I'm touched that you've gone through the thread with a fine toothed comb.
2) I'm amused that despite this you've still felt the need to make things up/lie in a vain attempt to bolster your position
3) I'm also amused by your contradicting yourself above - maybe you should preview before posting?
4) The production cost of a curry is not great and does not vary from restaurant to restaurant. If you wish to pay extra for the place's licence, the waiters' uniforms, the car park, the cocktail bar, the car park attendant, the fancy crockery, the trendy lighting, the funky furniture etc then more fool you.
5) Particularly when a review of your favoured 'well run restaurant' ('best kept secret') refers to having gristly meat in a main dish. Personally, that would put me off completely - then again I suppose I go for the food.
6) For me, good service is being genuine and pleasant. I don't ask for more than that and wouldn't want more as anything more is, IMO, just there to pamper to wankers.
7) I note with interest that you have ignored the key focus of the post you quoted - that the food in the establishments you love so much is neither authentic nor quality. Its overpriced crap aimed at clueless whitey and as such can be found as easilly in a Swindon pub as Bradford's 'best kept secret'.

Thinking of visiting Habib,s tonite at killinghall ?...anyone tried it.?

Yes, but only at a dinner time.

The choice was limited and it was buffet stylee but it was alright.

Thanks...you dont sound too impressed so ile give it a miss.....

No, it was alright. Better than your average curry house and far better than you'd get in most cities, but you could get better in Bradford.

I don't much go for these buffet affairs myself - I'd rather my food was freshly cooked to order.

Sounds like a plan to me, the more I have the merrier.

It will be the first thing I do when I arrive back in Bradford that´s for sure!

Ok this week i find myself sampling LaLa,s on bradford road Batley, quite near the Frontier club.....Monday night table for 3....6:30pm, about another 12 or so diners already there, here goes....

Mixed kebab..........1 shami,1 seihk, 1 bahji on sizzling platter of fried onions....nothing special, all tasted the same, even the bahji was bland and of the flat round variety........5/10.

Lamb tikka........served on sizzling platter of fried onions, lots of large, very lean, tender lamb pieces, sadley lacking flavour.........7/10.

Chicken Massalla......Lots of good tender chicken, once again lacking something.........4/10.

Lamb Dopiaza...........No fat or grisstle, expertly cooked tender lamb pieces, but didnt taste anything like a good curry.......5/10.

Family garlic nan.....9/10.

poppadoms.........8/10.

Service.......2/10.

2 bottles cobra, 1 coke.

£31.

We waited 40 mins before being served our starters, which was poor as there was as many waiters as diners.....but it the lack of flavour that disappointed us more....still just as important to post bad experiences as well as good ones, so we can warn others before they spend there hard earned...