Since nobody at the Wrexham Crusaders wants anything to do with the club that actually WON its franchise place, can we get the badge of the original team off this page?

I still have a REAL Crusaders top I want to wear and would rather not be affiliated to this team that masquerades as us when it wants and then damns us when it is expedient.

Good luck with your first year of our franchise and all, but we want our badge back.

I think you need an operation to have that big chip removed from your shoulder

More cheese with your whine?

Steal any good teams lately?

You don't WANT any part of the REAL history of the REAL club it seems, so give us our badge back.
Nice to see you so smug and gloaty at stealing our fanchise. I can't wait for the end of next year's season when the RFL doesn't renew our franchise that you are currently using.

You should be moaning to Leighton Samuel and his broken promises! Hardly stolen if he wanted to cash in on it because he couldn't take them any further.

btw plenty of original "true" Crusaders fan here in Wrexham tonight, we aren't selfish up here in North Wales plenty of room for all of Wales to get behind the team.

Oh believe me, Samuel is no friend of mine.

But it ABSOLUTELY IS theft.

Moss bought the club, wound up the company, formed a new companty called Wrexham Crusaders and changed everything except 10 players one word in the team name and mike effing Turner.

Many people buy into clubs. To do what Moss did, whilst legal, is tantamount to theft.

btw I bet I could name EVERY supporter of the original Crusaders that went to Wrexham. 20 people is hardly plenty. But it seems the theft is currently working. That was a good attendance. Even though I despise the vandalism done to my club and loathe the THIEF Moss, I would not suggest you newbies are anything other than "true" fans. We all have to start somewhere. Unfortunately as a result of the filthy deal done by Samuel and Moss, SOME of us have to end somewhere too.

Good luck supporting the new club that is using our franchise and to the 20 who have transferred from Celtic Crusaders to the new club, but isnce it has no respect for the old club or its history, I'd still like OUR club badge off YOUR club site.

Grendel, I thought you had denounced all links with the club, so why are you still talking about them?

Geoff Moss in fact saved the franchise, and the club, rather than doing a Samuel and not paying anyone and running the club into the ground. The fact you would rather us have no club than a club 3 hours away says a lot.

By the way, Friday night was a fantastic occasion. The players really appreciated us travelling from South Wales, even those who joined those damned 'ANZACS' (or whatever you insist on calling them on the South Wales site) after their reincarnation in Wrexham.

Onwards and upwards. We're going to the playoffs this year, with or without you.

Onwards and upwards . Next stop Cumbria eh ? Groundsharing with Whitehaven next season ?
3 seasons after that you gonna be travelling by boat to 'home' matches .
Grendel has a good point . Imagine Wigan moving to a ground in Hull (similar distance ? ) . Change everything about the club except ten or so of the squad . How many Wigan fans would be happy with that ?

I'm guessing not many .

AJH I'm still talking about them because I WANT to.
Is that okay with you? It's my legal right isn't it? Free speech? Nice to see you still spinning the bollards about Geoff Moss though. I don't know if it's because you actually DON'T know the truth or you say what you do because it's expedient. Given what you are training as, I have my suspicions.

You're going to the playoffs this year eh? You'll enjoy that.... You can sit with the team to watch it.

Oh and AJH, I think you've got something on the end of your nose ...

Oh it's okay, it's only geoff Moss' shiit!