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Grendel, for the RFL to do anything, the club have to be guilty of something. As yet, they are guilty of nothing.

It's a shame you are moving from Bridgend. That is unnecessary and stupid RFL pressure that was not placed upon other newly formed teams. Sadly, that's what the amateurish incompetent RFL is like, and it doesn't learn its lessons. You should have remained at Bridgend and built on what you have done so far. Alas. If only the RFL had people with some sense in their heads.

How ever bad it looks right now, it probably isn't. Lots of us Up North and in those foreign places ( :wink: ) are keeping everything crossed that the Borders Agency finds nothing with its grubby little mits and the club can progress from here. (Well, from next season anyway!)

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SaintsFan wrote:Your management may have nothing to do with it. The Borders Agency are still looking at that. This may all be down to your (former) players just passing along wrong information when filling in their visa forms. Wait and see whether the club is found responsible for anything before giving up. Next season will be better. All the hiccups will have stopped and things will be placed on a more secure, organised, professional footing, with new recruits chosen in a more relaxed way than this time last year when the new visa changes made life chaos.


Like saying they had been playing in the NRL for the last 2 seasons when in fact they had been ' on holiday ' in Bridgend since 2006 ?

Dont talk crap , are you seriously telling me the Club and most likely the RFL did not assist in the VISA applications of those players considering that they were at first refused

Or were they just following orders [ now where have we heard that before ]






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Starbug wrote:Dont talk crap , are you seriously telling me the Club and most likely the RFL did not assist in the VISA applications of those players considering that they were at first refused

Nah honeybunch, it's you who is talking crap. As per usual. And you really are making a first class dooby out of yourself, you realise that?

Individual players are responsible for their own visa applications. All employees are. Go check the 'how to apply for a visa' section and find out for yourself.

The club is responsible for its side of things, but not completing the visa application on behalf of the player. Players do their own forms.

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Starbug wrote:Like saying they had been playing in the NRL for the last 2 seasons when in fact they had been ' on holiday ' in Bridgend since 2006 ?

Dont talk crap , are you seriously telling me the Club and most likely the RFL did not assist in the VISA applications of those players considering that they were at first refused

Or were they just following orders [ now where have we heard that before ]


an hour ago it was bond movies now it nurenburg!
how on earth do you think the rl got involved they were not the employer ffs, so anything they said would be discounted. you see..oh god if your coming to work for mcdonalds immigration will not take a reference from burger king.............i tried to dumb it down a bit, hope this helps

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SaintsFan wrote:Nah honeybunch, it's you who is talking crap. As per usual. And you really are making a first class dooby out of yourself, you realise that?

Individual players are responsible for their own visa applications. All employees are. Go check the 'how to apply for a visa' section and find out for yourself.

The club is responsible for its side of things, but not completing the visa application on behalf of the player. Players do their own forms.[/quote]


Have you ever been involved with bringing a professional RL player into this country ?

They may well sign the forms but normally a club official [ Solicitor ] fills the form in and this season the RFL have also been involved on many occaisions with many clubs

So if the Celtic club have said to the players " Here boys can you fill these in " it shows exactly why they are in this mess

I will refrain from using patronising names in my posts as it shows a lack of respect to the person you are ' talking ' to






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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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Grendel wrote:But let's see what is likely to happen next.

You don't need to be Mystic Meg (or someone who can actually see into the future) to see what's coming.

The RFL will be forced to dock us our few meagre points. Though there is no relegation, they will have to kick us out of SL next year or be damned for gross hypocrisy.

We will be dropped down to the lower leagues. It is unlikely our academy and reserves team will survive the drop, given the nervousness of our benefactor.

Brewery Field limited have been shafted by the Crusaders moving games away from there and will be in no mood to welcome them back when the Newport deal falls through (because Dave Parade will not want to have a lower leagues team playing there) so we will be a team without a ground.

Rest In Peace Crusaders. For a while there it was fun.


Welcome to our world pal. :(






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Starbug wrote:
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Have you ever been involved with bringing a professional RL player into this country ?


oh dear your struggling arnt you??

ok i presume you understand the mcdonalds analogy from earlier on?

lets say a burger frier is need in lets say, oh i dont know newporrt, and ones available, in lets say america, you there so far?

now the suitablity gor employment and appropriate refences forms are going to be signed in.........???
a......newport
b......america


now what your implying is the council for british fast foods will have had an input......but you see they wont....because they are niether the employer on r the one prividing the references

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Starbug wrote:
Quote:They may well sign the forms but normally a club official [ Solicitor ] fills the form in

Who pays for their flight?

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SaintsFan wrote:
Starbug wrote:Who pays for their flight?


...and welcome!
its fun here, but a bit like shooting fish in a barrel!

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SaintsFan wrote:Nah honeybunch, it's you who is talking crap. As per usual. And you really are making a first class dooby out of yourself, you realise that?

Individual players are responsible for their own visa applications. All employees are. Go check the 'how to apply for a visa' section and find out for yourself.

The club is responsible for its side of things, but not completing the visa application on behalf of the player. Players do their own forms.


So are you trying to say that 6 players have all - independently - made the same mistake on their visa applications? And then no one has noticed that the said 6 forms all have errors? Stay off the drugs pal - they addle the brain!! :roll:






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