Joined: Jul 22 2008 Posts: 16170 Location: Somewhere other than here
mishmash wrote:......And you could be totally wrong stoopid!!
Yes, I know I could! I'm not saying I couldn't! But nor am I assuming that the club is guilty of something before the investigations have been completed! You and many others on here have already judged the club guilty of a criminal act by assuming they have had a hand in what has happened. My mind is open. It could be solely the players or the players and the club. But why be so negative? Why jump to negative conclusions?
It's all bitterness and petty jealousy and very embarrassing for the rest of rugby league to witness.
chapster wrote:and your point is they have been deported for working some additional hours somewhere?? the salary cap... to quote the parrot sketch ..dont enter into it! but im loving this thred now they are being deported for not playing rugby!!!!
Err no my point is that a work permit entitles you to work for a particular employer and it doesn't allow you to seek employment elsewhere.
If they were employed by Dekor then they ought to have been working for Dekor and playing amateur rugby. The problem is that they were (theoretically) employed by Dekor or on student visas yet playing professional sport which they had no legal right to do.
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Joined: Jul 22 2008 Posts: 16170 Location: Somewhere other than here
Starbug wrote:Given that Francis Meli had a few problems getting back into this country earlier this year are you suggesting that Eamon did not get his lawyer to assist mr Meli in sorting out the problem and that he did not at any time speak to the RFL on the subject ?
I would be very surprised that that happened not least because this is Meli's third season with us so he well knows the procedure by now. I'm sure he took legal advice in his own country given that the rules changed while he was home for Christmas but at the end of the day it was Meli's responsibility to fill in the forms, truthfully and correctly, and no-one else's.
The RFL don't employ Crusaders players but they are supposed to check that sums paid to players actually have been paid and there is no funny business with money being paid "under the table".
If Dekor were paying the players rather than Crusaders then this makes a mockery of the salary cap.
Why can't JJB pay Wigan players and then Warriors can sign who they want and pay them what they want?
On the contrary, it seems that players were being paid by somebody other than their club.
ooooooooooh thats new!!!
i think you about to get slaughtered for using wigam as a reference especailly wher the rl started paying international players.
chapster wrote:ooooooooooh thats new!!! i think you about to get slaughtered for using wigam as a reference especailly wher the rl started paying international players.
It might if the RFL were paying players to play for their own clubs.
Joined: Feb 02 2009 Posts: 3533 Location: In the wild West(Leigh)
SaintsFan wrote:Yes, I know I could! I'm not saying I couldn't! But nor am I assuming that the club is guilty of something before the investigations have been completed! You and many others on here have already judged the club guilty of a criminal act by assuming they have had a hand in what has happened. My mind is open. It could be solely the players or the players and the club. But why be so negative? Why jump to negative conclusions?
It's all bitterness and petty jealousy and very embarrassing for the rest of rugby league to witness.
Too right we're bitter and jealous, they stole a place in SL that should have gone, IMO, to Widnes (not my home town Leigh note).
Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting. George Orwell
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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SaintsFan wrote:I would be very surprised that that happened not least because this is Meli's third season with us so he well knows the procedure by now. I'm sure he took legal advice in his own country given that the rules changed while he was home for Christmas but at the end of the day it was Meli's responsibility to fill in the forms, truthfully and correctly, and no-one else's.
Then you really dont have a clue how a proffessional sports club operates do you
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Joined: Feb 02 2009 Posts: 3533 Location: In the wild West(Leigh)
SaintsFan wrote:Oh yeah. All these Celtic fans got together and stole your place in Superleague (or whoever else's place you think they stole).
Jeez. Get a life, you sad person.
I'm not talking about the fans you tool. You know what I mean, they don't deserve to be in Super League - they got there by default - and look at them now!
Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules and sadistic pleasure in witnessing violence. In other words, it is war minus the shooting. George Orwell
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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