The BBC sub-headline says "Catalans Dragons hold off a second-half Wakefield fightback for a surprise 25-16 victory". For how much longer will wins be termed 'surprise'? Perhaps we should just forget about winning games to appease lazy sub-editors.

We used to get that all time, not so much now but it used to p!ss me right off

is there any update on remi casti's horrific gunshot wound???

i was stood close to the grassy knoll and saw no sniper!


to quote bill hicks
back and to the left
back and to the left

god it was the guys stood on the house!!!

On the SLS Iestyn Harris thought that it was worth pointing out that we have a big Australian contingent. Is 6 alot?

I'd call it overseas, compare it to other play-off teams
Leeds (5) - Webb, Donald, Leuluai, Buderus, Lauitiiti
Hull KR (9) - Webster, Dobson, Newton, Galea, Gene, Fitzhenry, Fisher(?), Vella, Aizue
Huddersfield (5) - Hodgson, Fulton, Whatuira, Faiumu, Lolesi
St Helens (6) - Gidley, Meli, Puletua, Flannery, Fa'asavalu, Cayless
Castleford (7) - Evans, Chase, Sherwin, Seargant, McGoldrick, Faumuima, Widders
Wigan (9) - Roberts, Carmont, Richards, Smith, Leuluai, Riddell, Palleasina, Bailey, Phelps,
Wakefield (10) - Obst, Stosic, Henderson, Winterstein, Blanch, LeoLatu, Korkidas, Martin, Demitriou, Drew

I'd best do Catalans (9) - Greenshields, Bell, Mogg, Perry, McGuire, Croker, Carlaw, Ryles, Bird

So perhaps above the average (7.5), but nothing to be embarrassed about though IMO!

I wouldn't get too upset about anything Iestyn says.
We've got six at Wigan, although Smith is already back in Australia and there are question marks over Bailey.
Richards plays for Ireland but I'm pretty sure he still has his Australian passport.
I wonder if he'll still count Mogg, Greenshields and McGuire should Bobbie pick them for the Four Nations.

Wigan have 9, i stated them in the post above. whether or not someone is in aus, i included perry and croker in the Dragons list

We don't have 9 Australians. We have 6 and that's including Tim Smith back in Australia.

Okay Cala, that's how you're counting. As Iestyn was commenting about the squad on the pitch I was talking about the squad on the pitch. Where we had 6 etrangers in our 17 man squad.

In that case we had four Australians. Phelps, Roberts, Richards and Riddell on the bench