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Author:  mmp [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
It's what we at Bury have really needed to know! Today the RFL sent out details for next years Tier 4 and yes - there will be an interim winter season!!!

http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/burybronc ... 20326.html
It's what we at Bury have really needed to know! Today the RFL sent out details for next years Tier 4 and yes - there will be an interim winter season!!!

http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/burybronc ... 20326.html
Author:  Gladiators [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
Fairly major development, especially when taken into account with the NCL's plans to set-up new divisions to their clubs A teams.
Author:  mmp [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
It's significant as it may allow winter teams to start to plan for summer. There are two bid barriers to switching if a winter side...

1) the season has traditionally been too short to sustain a club

2) in making the switch, the time gap between the last winter game and the first summer game would be too long...

Hopefully, these plans now allow winter sides to plan their own transition. My concern remains that some winter sides wanted summer, but because of the lack of certainty they have started to drift 'back' to being winter clubs only. There will need to be a critical mass in summer to run a March to November league and hopefully some more sides will start to come over...
Author:  JTB [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
We'll be in, the sooner we move away from the existing conference shambles and it's defaulting teams the better.
Author:  Gladiators [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
Yeah we will be going for it too.
Author:  Morning Glory [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
If, as seems likely the NCL clubs have their 'A' sides in a separate league will there be enough teams for the proposed 4 league regional set-up though?

Seems to me there will still need to be a major shift in direction from the winter only clubs to make the proposed regional league anything like viable, especially the 4 division format they've laid out. If not then, as JTB says, the shambles of the current summer conference might continue.
Author:  mmp [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
Morning Glory wrote:If, as seems likely the NCL clubs have their 'A' sides in a separate league will there be enough teams for the proposed 4 league regional set-up though?

Seems to me there will still need to be a major shift in direction from the winter only clubs to make the proposed regional league anything like viable, especially the 4 division format they've laid out. If not then, as JTB says, the shambles of the current summer conference might continue.


that's what i was getting at here: http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/burybronc ... 16395.html

to get the winter clubs to switch they need to a) make sure the administration is right! if you're a NWC club looking at this years Prem as a model for how next year will run then you're not going to fancy a switchover! b) the comms needs to be better - the comms have to be to the right people at the clubs and to encourage them to make the move...it's no good repeating the results of the survey and saying 'there is demand' as players do not run clubs or sides - the RFL now need to persuade the club administrators that the move is the right one by communicating with them more.

As I say - we need the critical mass for it to work and that's in all of our interest.
Morning Glory wrote:If, as seems likely the NCL clubs have their 'A' sides in a separate league will there be enough teams for the proposed 4 league regional set-up though?

Seems to me there will still need to be a major shift in direction from the winter only clubs to make the proposed regional league anything like viable, especially the 4 division format they've laid out. If not then, as JTB says, the shambles of the current summer conference might continue.


that's what i was getting at here: http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/burybronc ... 16395.html

to get the winter clubs to switch they need to a) make sure the administration is right! if you're a NWC club looking at this years Prem as a model for how next year will run then you're not going to fancy a switchover! b) the comms needs to be better - the comms have to be to the right people at the clubs and to encourage them to make the move...it's no good repeating the results of the survey and saying 'there is demand' as players do not run clubs or sides - the RFL now need to persuade the club administrators that the move is the right one by communicating with them more.

As I say - we need the critical mass for it to work and that's in all of our interest.
Author:  BrigRugbyLeague [ Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
yep we'll be there
Author:  mmp [ Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
NCL met last night - accepted an application from West Bank I believe and also agreed to take their A sides to summer. Did they state any view on whether they'd have their own A team comp or whether they'd integrate into a wider league...?
Author:  JTB [ Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Tier 4 expressions of interest in NW sought
mmp wrote:Did they state any view on whether they'd have their own A team comp or whether they'd integrate into a wider league...?


A teams are apparently forming their own leagues. It makes sense to some extent if they pool travel and play other second teams if that's the plan. My gut feeling though is the RFL will have a half arsed idea around that which won't work and the 2nd teams will end up being pooled into tier 4.
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