SirStan wrote:I stopped reading at this point.
You got that far, well done mate
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| Author: | pugwash pal [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
Would any of our players make a difference to the England team? Marks out of 10 for England over the full tour, S Tomkins (Wigan); 5 D Goulding (Wigan), 4 L Cudjoe (Huddersfield), 3 R Atkins (Warrington) 6 , T Briscoe (Hull); 4 S O'Loughlin (Wigan) 4 , L Robinson (Huddersfield) 7 ; J Graham (St Helens, capt) 8 , J Roby (St Helens) 7 , S Burgess (South Sydney) 7 , G Ellis (Wests Tigers) 7 , J Tomkins (Wigan) 4 , B Westwood (Warrington). 5 Subs: S Lunt (Huddersfield) 5 , S Fielden (Wigan) 6 , E Crabtree (Huddersfield) 5 , B Harrison (Warrington). 4 R Hall (Leeds) 4 G Widdop NRL 5 G Carvell (Warr) 5 M Shenton (Cas) 7 K Brown (Hudd) 6 T Clubb (HRL) 8 Cannot think Steve Mc will get much more than a 4. |
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| Author: | gingerspice [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
Think most of them went over there for a jolly Tompkins could not and did not get away with half of what he does and has done over here, thought man of the tournament for England was definately Robbo its a shame it ended the way it did for him, Brisco is still young, think Fox and Brisc should def have gone.... |
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| Author: | Dave K. [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
I doubt it, I would have taken Fox, who is better than Goulding IMO though. Watts is one for the future, but England are strong in the forwards. Briscoe isn't good enough for international RL. Having Eastmond, Mcguire, Bridge, Peacock and Sinfield would have made a big difference though. Tomkins Briscoe Shenton Bridge Fox Mcguire Eastmond Morley Sinfield Graham Ellis Burgess O Louglin Roby Peacock Crabtree Westwood |
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| Author: | Mild Rover [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
pugwash pal wrote:Would any of our players make a difference to the England team? Not a significant one in all honesty. Watts is one for the future, but isn't yet as good as the incumbents. Fox would have done okay, but my assumption is that McNamara isn't that fussed about wingers coming in to help the forwards out as none of those selected did. Murrell is a decent option for a touring squad, but wouldn't get anywhere near the NwZ or Aus teams. Mind you, England had no kicking game, Brown did little enough at 6 and Roby looks very ordinary when his pack aren't dominating. Briscoe would have allowed Tomkins to play 6 or 7 in a squad that was short of halves - but Widdop should have covered that in theory. A few selections were made with 2013 in mind, I guess. Not a disaster, but I'm not impressed to be honest. Good to see some new faces, but the balance of the squad seemed off to me. We mightn't have won, but we should have been closer IMO. |
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| Author: | SirStan [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
pugwash pal wrote: R Atkins (Warrington) 6 I stopped reading at this point. |
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| Author: | Bet Lynch [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
SirStan wrote:I stopped reading at this point. You got that far, well done mate
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| Author: | tonylRobin [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
i would have taken Martin Gleeson, hes still the best English centre in S/L IMO. our pack is good enough to compete but were so far behind in the backs though. |
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| Author: | Uptoncat [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
Atkins 6? Westwood 5? What do you watch? Atkins was dire a 3 would be generous. Westwood was a machine along with Graham and never stopped. You my friend are deluded! |
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| Author: | General Zod. [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
If everyone was fully-fit my team would look something like this:- Tompkins Hall Pryce Gleeson Fox Eastmond Brough Graham Sinfield Peacock Ellis Burgess Morley Burrows Westwood Carvell Crabtree Problem positions for me have been 3, 4 & 7. Gleeson is our best centre by a mile and I'd shove Leon Pryce in the other centre slot cos the rest are poor though I think Briscoe could be a world class centre if Agar plays him there for his club. Brough is admittedly pretty average but he is a traditional scrum-half with a consistent kicking game. Play a 3rd prop @ loose-man, Burrows as a substitute hooker and steam-roller em up the middle with 5 drives/dummy-half scoots and a kick and I doubt the Aussies could stand up to it if England managed a completion rate of 80%+ |
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| Author: | pugwash pal [ Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Murrell, Fox Briscoe and Watts |
Fec off upton cat. You are club going into the National league so what the hell do you know. Rovers site this so P off brain dead. Any way the point to the post was how crap England where and if our players would make a difference. |
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