Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Welham at this moment in time is ahead of Hall purely on the basis that he didnt need to go out on loan to a lower league club to rebuild his confidence. Welham is a great reader of the game. His pace isnt blistering but he isnt the sloutch some on here are making him out to be. His try scoring record is 1 every 2 games which in SL is above average. Defensively he needs to improve but he will. People are forgetting he made his break through at aged 21 not 17, 18. Therefore he still has improvement in him. And he has caught the eye of Tony Smith this season so maybe one day he might get Rep honours.
hall didn't need to go anywhere, it was our nob of a coach who sent him. He has the type of skills welham can only dream of
Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:If Hall can improve his upper body strength and positional play then i agree he has the potential to be the better of the 2. If he doesnt then Welham is the more solid option.
I agree. TBF to Hall late in the season his defensive game looked to have improved considerably and his confidence was high. People knock the loan move to Widnes but it has helped his development IMO.
Either way it is refreshing to see a few Hull born lads playing super league level in the centres....if only we could find a couple of scrum halves!
Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:If Hall can improve his upper body strength and positional play then i agree he has the potential to be the better of the 2. If he doesnt then Welham is the more solid option.
No chance. They're both flaky in defence but hall is an exceptional attacking talent and certainly one of the fastest centres in SL
knocker norton wrote:No it isnt OK for England to do it, did I say that?
The fact that Fa'asavalu played for GB devalued the shirt IMO....
as i said it goes on, i seem to recall tongans, new zealanders , aussies, png etc etc etc all being allowed to switch allegencies in the past as well.
and i agree with you, anybody that represents england who is not english by birth , should not happen. and i`m sure smith could pick english players that are on an equal if not better quality than bridge, harrison and the guarenteed fasa when sts finish
Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Welham at this moment in time is ahead of Hall purely on the basis that he didnt need to go out on loan to a lower league club to rebuild his confidence. Welham is a great reader of the game. His pace isnt blistering but he isnt the sloutch some on here are making him out to be. His try scoring record is 1 every 2 games which in SL is above average. Defensively he needs to improve but he will. People are forgetting he made his break through at aged 21 not 17, 18. Therefore he still has improvement in him. And he has caught the eye of Tony Smith this season so maybe one day he might get Rep honours.
are you saying that if you made your break through at 17/18 you wont get better after 21?
halls pace is blistering, hes scored 10 in 14 games, defensively he needs to improve but he will.
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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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Sheldon wrote:are you saying that if you made your break through at 17/18 you wont get better after 21?
halls pace is blistering, hes scored 10 in 14 games, defensively he needs to improve
Quote:but he will
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when he moves to rovers.
east hull fc fan wrote: 1 major trophy in 18 years doesn't make us a big club. On the pitch is were it counts and by that theory were no bigger than Sheffield! tarquin fuego wrote: I wrote this 2 mins before the game finished , you know why Sheldon Maylord ? because I know about RL ! Hoss pot HOW on earth do you get NILLED at Wembley ? When your coach isn't a winner at heart and Gentle is not a winner at heart . We were a pub team I coached for a long time and we won 95% of games because winning is a mental state driven by a desire to CRUSH an opposition. Did FC look as though they wanted to Crush Wigan and strangle them until they screamed ? NO RL is a tough tough game and Maylord She-dong you have no clue In fact don't ever ever reply to any of my posts again
hkrdavidhkr wrote:as i said it goes on, i seem to recall tongans, new zealanders , aussies, png etc etc etc all being allowed to switch allegencies in the past as well.
and i agree with you, anybody that represents england who is not english by birth , should not happen. and i`m sure smith could pick english players that are on an equal if not better quality than bridge, harrison and the guarenteed fasa when sts finish
The ironic thing is it is the Aussies who are the worst at it and they dont need to! Picking players like Mason, Dymock, Civonacieva(sp), Hayne and Hunt who all qualify for lesser nations by birth right just weakens the international game.
Both Tonga and Samoa could probably pick a very competitive team if allowed to.
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knocker norton wrote:The ironic thing is it is the Aussies who are the worst at it and they dont need to! Picking players like Mason, Dymock, Civonacieva(sp), Hayne and Hunt who all qualify for lesser nations by birth right just weakens the international game.
Both Tonga and Samoa could probably pick a very competitive team if allowed to.
don't the nrl have central contracts though similar to RU to keep top players like the ones mentioned?
east hull fc fan wrote: 1 major trophy in 18 years doesn't make us a big club. On the pitch is were it counts and by that theory were no bigger than Sheffield! tarquin fuego wrote: I wrote this 2 mins before the game finished , you know why Sheldon Maylord ? because I know about RL ! Hoss pot HOW on earth do you get NILLED at Wembley ? When your coach isn't a winner at heart and Gentle is not a winner at heart . We were a pub team I coached for a long time and we won 95% of games because winning is a mental state driven by a desire to CRUSH an opposition. Did FC look as though they wanted to Crush Wigan and strangle them until they screamed ? NO RL is a tough tough game and Maylord She-dong you have no clue In fact don't ever ever reply to any of my posts again
Sheldon wrote:well if thats how we rate players fair enough.
OK.
Lets make it simple for you.
Welham = Ever Present in the team that finished 4th in the Table.
Hall = Fringe Player and loaned out in the team that finished 12th.
If you take the time to digest what is actually posted then you might not make yourself look so much of a fool.
Ive posted that if they both reach full potencial Hall will be the better player.
But as things stand Welham has had a far far better season then Hall and deserves credit for that.
Its up to Hall to change that opinion.
red al wrote:don't the nrl have central contracts though similar to RU to keep top players like the ones mentioned?
i dont think so. they do have 3rd party payments off sponsors but nothing to do with nationallity.
Tarquin Fuego wrote: I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.
The Reason wrote:Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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