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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:01 am 
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Larry Billey wrote:To be fair what i did see of Riddell and Berrigan it was obvious they were very good players.., Riddell was part of the champion side , Berrigan was criminally misused by Hull in my opinion, would have loved to have seen him at Rovers.., from my limited evidence of the others i think O Donnell has already shown he is quality , Perry and Lima have yet to show much and Mason and Morgan need to decide why he is here...

The thing about all the above though is that they all have "runs on the board" in Morgan speak, all rep or international players who without question , have done it and a probably a good bet to come good.., Green has never done anything, has no runs on the board etc ..and in my opinion was not a good signing for such a pivotal role in such a supposedly aspirational team, i held this view prior to him signing and nothing i have seen has changed my mind..he is not a "winner"...the phrase "here for the experience" springs to mind.....one of the reasons i think we have missed the boat..we should have made a "quality" six and nine , as Nick quite rightly says, a priority...instead we give a reserve grader a two year deal and the captaincy.. for all the good it will do us.. i,e none., we might as well have given Bell two years to see if he can crack it...nothing to lose if we aint bothered about challenging..(and perhaps everything to gain..)


But in fairness Dobson had no runs on the board, yet ,even if you disagree, he has been a very good player for us. Ridell played in a champion side I agree, but in all fairness was nothing more than average for them, Andy Coley also played in that champion side and he's average to poor at best.You seem to be saying reputation prior to coming is all that matters unless your signing for HKR then why the hell are you here (this is what your comments ref Mason seem to say). There are some players that come over with no real reputation but our game just suits them more than the NRL. The diamond in the rough to quote a phrase, Pat Richards had few runs on the board, journey man was used to discribe him, yet he seems to have done ok.

I'm willing to give Green the benefit of the doubt as I believe his attributes will compliment Dobsons rather than our other 6's which seem to hinder. If by the end of the year he has shown no improvement then I will hold my hands up.

Bell isn;t ready yet, not sure if you've seen him play but apart from being injured he isn't there yet, a year or so's time and he'll be ready and needs to be eased in. If he was fit right now then I'd maybe say give him a go, but he was no way ready to be ourstarting 6. Hardcastle (No7) looks further away still and will need to add a bit of bulk to compete at SL standard.

I think you put across a decent arguement but you do seem very eager to put ourplayers down and big up others who in all honesty are no better than what we have.

Just out of interest in your opinion apart from Luluai, is there another class 7 in SL.

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 Post subject: Re: In or out.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:04 am 
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Think LB's stock is increasing by the day, he's pretty much owned everyone on this thread.


Your definition of owned seems quite strange. I see this as probably one of the few decent discussions I've ever had on here that hasn't been derailled or plummetted into personal insults. Still theres time yet for it to go down hill.. :D

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barham red wrote:Your definition of owned seems quite strange. I see this as probably one of the few decent discussions I've ever had on here that hasn't been derailled or plummetted into personal insults. Still theres time yet for it to go down hill.. :D


You definition of a poor player (Andy Coley) is also quite strange. I would take him over any of Rovers props, in fact i would find it extremely difficult to find a place for any Rovers player in the current Wigan side.

LB clearly knows his stuff and i think he has well and truly nailed this thread.






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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:23 am 
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Gordon Gekko wrote:You definition of a poor player (Andy Coley) is also quite strange. I would take him over any of Rovers props, in fact i would find it extremely difficult to find a place for any Rovers player in the current Wigan side.

LB clearly knows his stuff and i think he has well and truly nailed this thread.


Agree, Andy Coley is just the type of prop we don't have and need IMO. (mind you that could apply to a lot of other fwds to)
Little harsh comparing Wigan to our current mob.

Still, for Larry B's arguments for Luluai over Dobson, I'd rather have Dobson.






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 Post subject: Re: In or out.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:59 am 
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Gordon Gekko wrote:You definition of a poor player (Andy Coley) is also quite strange. I would take him over any of Rovers props, in fact i would find it extremely difficult to find a place for any Rovers player in the current Wigan side.

LB clearly knows his stuff and i think he has well and truly nailed this thread.



Coley looks good in a good side, put him our team and he'd stand out as the penalty machine he undoubtedly is. Its easy to shine in a good side. How many players do you see move from a champion side and look average at best.

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 Post subject: Re: In or out.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:22 am 
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any links to the website to pick your team?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:24 am 
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tonylRobin wrote:any links to the website to pick your team?


www.superleague.co.uk then click on exiles.

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tonylRobin wrote:any links to the website to pick your team?


www.superleague.co.uk then click on exiles.

You'll need to create an account if you don't have one.

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 Post subject: Re: In or out.
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Big Dave T wrote:http://www.superleague.co.uk then click on exiles.

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cheers Dave, ill have a look

i think this is a great idea, hopefully both sides will have a few training sessions together to make it even better.

just tried to register but it says it cant register me so sod em,


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Should be a real spectacle. As a concept i think it's a great idea and hope it takes off and really adds some intensity to our international game.

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 Post subject: Re: In or out.
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Big Dave T wrote:Should be a real spectacle. As a concept i think it's a great idea and hope it takes off and really adds some intensity to our international game.



yer hopefully it make help improve the national side, we seem to have some good young English backs coming through right now, like, McGilvery at Giants, Evans at Wolves, young Briscoe, Arundel at Cas too, still short of good young H/b's though which is still a concern

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