Joined: Oct 26 2007 Posts: 2570 Location: East Hull is Wonderful
knocker norton wrote:Its tough been a pro player and sometimes you need to take responsibility for your actions because it is scrutonised by everyone. Craig hall will be a better player and person for all the tough times I reckon.
Serious question.
Who is the highlighted part attributed to, Craig Hall or Agar?
Barton Flyer wrote:texted my son to say light at the end of the tunnel, unfortunately it was a train coming! Re:- Rovers v Salford 29/03/09
HFC Boy wrote:Hull FC have not risen to the Challenge of Hull KR .
Success consists of getting up just one more time than you've fallen down.
phil webbo wrote:Serious question. Who is the highlighted part attributed to, Craig Hall or Agar?
Many games Craig Hall dropped the proverbial which cost the team. We all knew his talent but he was raw to say the least. Remember the KC derby this year?
If you are blaming Agar then that is your beef. Peter Sharp once blamed Hall for losing a game in London by missing all his kicks. End of the day he did!
Responsibility.
Craig Hall has gone away and worked on his game, a loan spell at Widnes and recent form would suggest he is getting stronger. Not the finished article but a hell of a talent.
Joined: Oct 26 2007 Posts: 2570 Location: East Hull is Wonderful
knocker norton wrote:Many games Craig Hall dropped the proverbial which cost the team. We all knew his talent but he was raw to say the least. Remember the KC derby this year?
If you are blaming Agar then that is your beef. Peter Sharp once blamed Hall for losing a game in London by missing all his kicks. End of the day he did!
Responsibility.
Craig Hall has gone away and worked on his game, a loan spell at Widnes and recent form would suggest he is getting stronger. Not the finished article but a hell of a talent.
I've not got a beef with either,
it's just that a lot of your fans blamed Agar, and some blamed Hall, but having seen Craig on TV I could see how his confidence had completely gone, and the fans were on his back, but there were people screeming he should be brought back and Agar shown the door,
The sentence "sometimes you need to take responsibility for your actions because it is scrutonised by everyone" could have been attributed to either,
Like I said it was a serious question, and not a snipe at either.
Barton Flyer wrote:texted my son to say light at the end of the tunnel, unfortunately it was a train coming! Re:- Rovers v Salford 29/03/09
HFC Boy wrote:Hull FC have not risen to the Challenge of Hull KR .
Success consists of getting up just one more time than you've fallen down.
phil webbo wrote:I've not got a beef with either, it's just that a lot of your fans blamed Agar, and some blamed Hall, but having seen Craig on TV I could see how his confidence had completely gone, and the fans were on his back, but there were people screeming he should be brought back and Agar shown the door, The sentence "sometimes you need to take responsibility for your actions because it is scrutonised by everyone" could have been attributed to either, Like I said it was a serious question, and not a snipe at either.
I hope I answered your query. Both still have a lot to prove.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29811 Location: West Yorkshire
phil webbo wrote:I've not got a beef with either, it's just that a lot of your fans blamed Agar, and some blamed Hall, but having seen Craig on TV I could see how his confidence had completely gone, and the fans were on his back, but there were people screeming he should be brought back and Agar shown the door, and the sentence "sometimes you need to take responsibility for your actions because it is scrutonised by everyone" could have been attributed to either, like I said it was a serious question, and not a snipe at either.
Agar was at fault for playing him out of position but in the backs we had Tony, Byrne, Briscoe and Raynor out and R Horne and Thorman started the season OK in the halves. That said, Hall was a disaster at FB, so awful that I thought we should get rid. His handling, defence and decision-making were terrible. He's only really got back in as Yeaman and Briscoe have both been injured, but has looked a different player since his loan spell. He still has brain explosions, but his knack for finding the try-line is uncanny. You've got a good 'un there and I'll be very disappointed to see him pull on the red and white shirt next season. Assuming the OP is in full possession of all the FACTS, of course.
Joined: Oct 26 2007 Posts: 2570 Location: East Hull is Wonderful
Mrs Barista wrote:Agar was at fault for playing him out of position but in the backs we had Tony, Byrne, Briscoe and Raynor out and R Horne and Thorman started the season OK in the halves. That said, Hall was a disaster at FB, so awful that I thought we should get rid. His handling, defence and decision-making were terrible. He's only really got back in as Yeaman and Briscoe have both been injured, but has looked a different player since his loan spell. He still has brain explosions, but his knack for finding the try-line is uncanny. You've got a good 'un there and I'll be very disappointed to see him pull on the red and white shirt next season. Assuming the OP is in full possession of all the FACTS, of course.
Don't know where he will end up, but wish him well whatever he decides is right for him, on your other point, I thought Briscoe was a winger, so I really couldn't understand why Agar played Hall out off position, then had the temerity to blame Hall, and some of his recent comments regarding the FC players seemed rather strange, considering he's the coach.
Barton Flyer wrote:texted my son to say light at the end of the tunnel, unfortunately it was a train coming! Re:- Rovers v Salford 29/03/09
HFC Boy wrote:Hull FC have not risen to the Challenge of Hull KR .
Success consists of getting up just one more time than you've fallen down.
phil webbo wrote:Don't know where he will end up, but wish him well whatever he decides is right for him, on your other point, I thought Briscoe was a winger, so I really couldn't understand why Agar played Hall out off position, then had the temerity to blame Hall, and some of his recent comments regarding the FC players seemed rather strange, considering he's the coach.
Which comments did you find strange out of interest?
Joined: Oct 26 2007 Posts: 2570 Location: East Hull is Wonderful
very red robin wrote:.... rumour is doing the rounds again....
apparently hes signed 2yr contract from next season onwards.... next year to get his defence upto speed, then to take over from Webster when he leaves.
I find these posts very strange, considering there are rules in place about talking to players under contract, (well for 4 more days) how can he have already signed a contract while he's under contract with Hull:roll: if you had posted this in September, it may have had some creedence.
Barton Flyer wrote:texted my son to say light at the end of the tunnel, unfortunately it was a train coming! Re:- Rovers v Salford 29/03/09
HFC Boy wrote:Hull FC have not risen to the Challenge of Hull KR .
Success consists of getting up just one more time than you've fallen down.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29811 Location: West Yorkshire
phil webbo wrote:I find these posts very strange, considering there are rules in place about talking to players under contract, (well for 4 more days) how can he have already signed a contract while he's under contract with Hull:roll: if you had posted this in September, it may have had some creedence.
Joined: Oct 26 2007 Posts: 2570 Location: East Hull is Wonderful
knocker norton wrote:Which comments did you find strange out of interest?
They need to go back to basics.(Thats his job)
It leaves me questioning where rugby sits on the list of priorities of some of our players (He's incharge of club discipline).
The fans are having a detrimental effect on our performance.(It's up to him to change that and the fans have a right to voice there frustration).
Barton Flyer wrote:texted my son to say light at the end of the tunnel, unfortunately it was a train coming! Re:- Rovers v Salford 29/03/09
HFC Boy wrote:Hull FC have not risen to the Challenge of Hull KR .
Success consists of getting up just one more time than you've fallen down.
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