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Mrs Barista wrote:I'm sure there are some old Tommy Lee slagoffathon threads on here somewhere. Might pass some time on the long winter nights dredging them up.
Dregde this one up then.
The guys poop and IMO would be a backward step for Rovers.
"They supercede individuals, they supercede the team and they supercede the club. Our club is a traditional, working class club and the supporters are loyal and passionate and to see them go away happy really makes my day." Craig Sandercock.
Convict 99 wrote:i would think last Saturday proved to anyone with RL knowledge that Berrigan (the australian international hooker and centre ) is a better scrum half than Dobson
Better player? Yes. Better scrum half? No way!
I don't think you'll even get many Hull fans agreeing with that.
Convict 99 wrote:i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..
How'd you work that one out then? Sherwin is likely to be on at least as much, if not more than Dobson, and he's been plagued by injury and fitness issues.
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Convict 99 wrote: i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..
Id say he is better value for money than Long, I dont rate Robinson at all and Orr is nothing special although wont be on bog wages i wouldnt have thought. Cant argue with the others too much, but Eastmond has played 6 games in SL (i think) and you think he is better than Dobson. Seems you are a bit negative tbh, but im sure you will respond by saying you're "just a realist"
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There's a thing called the salary cap convict which dictates most stuff...
Stirlingshire Saint wrote: If HKR win at Saints, I will personally bare my backside on the town hall steps in Hull.
Stirlingshire Saint wrote:
In summary, HKR are made up of of a few overrated foreigners, a couple of Wigan rejects and a couple of blokes I have never heard of.
Saints by plenty, by miles even!
Stirlingshire Saint wrote: A walkover for Saints.
HKR are about as poor as it gets.
When referring to the atmosphere of the HJ...
Wire On The Telly wrote: ...
Shame it doesn't keep the sound like the full east stand of HKR. That's atmosphere.
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[quote="Convict 99"]i would think last Saturday proved to anyone with RL knowledge that Berrigan (the australian international hooker and centre ) is a better scrum half than Dobson,
i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..[/quote
Brent Sherwin-Previously brilliant player, well past best.
Sean Long- See Brent Sherwin
Lee Briers- Can't tackle and injured a lot
Danny Orr-Had his best days 7/8 years ago
Luke Robinson-Good young player but does not have an all round game but getting better
What immortal hand or eye, Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
Convict 99 wrote:i would think last Saturday proved to anyone with RL knowledge that Berrigan (the australian international hooker and centre ) is a better scrum half than Dobson,
i would also say that anyone who thinks he is better than (and more importantly better value for money than) Sherwin, Eastmond, Long, Briers, Burrow, Brough, Myler , Orr and Robinson is deluded..[/quote
Brent Sherwin-Previously brilliant player, well past best. Sean Long- See Brent Sherwin Lee Briers- Can't tackle and injured a lotDanny Orr-Had his best days 7/8 years ago Luke Robinson-Good young player but does not have an all round game but getting better
Nor can Dobbo, he is in the top 5 for missed tackles, an area which he needs to improve to be in the same league as Sherwin & Long have been.
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berrigans bitch wrote:
EL CAMO wrote: Nor can Dobbo, he is in the top 5 for missed tackles, an area which he needs to improve to be in the same league as Sherwin & Long have been.
Missed tackles are often thougght to not reflect tackling ability as a lot of players are more willing to attempt lost causes which makes for a higher mised tackle count.
What immortal hand or eye, Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
berrigans bitch wrote: Nor can Dobbo, he is in the top 5 for missed tackles, an area which he needs to improve to be in the same league as Sherwin & Long have been.
That's a poor way of looking at defensive ability. For example:
In 16 appearances this year, Long has made 166 tackles and missed 37. That means he's missed ~18% of tackles "attempted".
In 23 appearances this year, Dobson has made 318 tackles and missed 68. That means he's missed ~17% of tackles "attempted".
Stats are stats, but there are so many different ways of looking at them. I agree Dobson's defence needs to improve but that's based on watching him week in, week out.
Scott Murrell is top of both "Tackles" and "Missed Tackles", but I know his defence is excellent.
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