Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:Yes, maybe it was a bit much.
On second thoughts, bin Sheens and sign Agar. You know you want to.
He was taking the shizzle, you ultimate dunce.
All that effort, from your post, we laughed until we knocked on a little bit more.
We know we're awful, we don't need endless Uber Pillock's to point it out to us.
Did you score the the points?
Did it make you all feel bigger!
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
His Bobness wrote:Hull FC have been much improved in the past 2/3 years but I'd say the foundations were laid before this, during the 'Radford Out' period.
Had Adam Pearson listened to the mob and started from scratch all over, I do believe Hull would have tasted the middle 8's and the instability they bring. After all, Hull had been no strangers to 10th &11th positions previously.
The rise in Hull's fortunes happens to have coincided with a downturn in ours. Well done to Hull I respect them for what they have achieved and to their fans who were quality in their reaction to the passing of Roger Millward.
Rovers are building and making good decisions for the future just like Hull during the 'Radford Out' period. Luckily for Hull they were able to ride out the storm whilst benefiting from the backstop of the no relegation licensing system.
I'm only really interested in us though and we are very lucky to have Tim Sheens. If he were showing signs of age and a lack of energy I would be concerned but he really, really isn't. Looking at his decisions I find some to disagree with but over a season a coach will have to make a million decisions.
Tim Sheens is in the very early stages of his task to make Rovers an established Super League team. He started in year minus one having to get us promoted first. How wonderful if we could see into the future and look back on what he achieved, rather than having to speculate on what might be.
I have said this before but it is worth repeating. Spend 10 minutes in the company of Tim Sheens and any doubts you have about him will disappear.
Fully outed and finally hung by your own petard.
This is on a par with your awful "Kisser" magazine work.
Your choice.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Sandro II Terrorista wrote:He was taking the shizzle, you ultimate dunce.
All that effort, from your post, we laughed until we knocked on a little bit more.
We know we're awful, we don't need endless Uber Pillock's to point it out to us.
Did you score the the points?
Did it make you all feel bigger!
Yes I know he was taking the p***, what about it?
I don't really care if you get relegated or not, but I also aren't one for taking joy from seeing you struggle. I never got that excited about derbys anyway, and after a decade of derby overkill it really is just another game now. I would swap that win on Sunday for us to beat Warrington this week since that would be more useful for our season. I am a rugby league supporter and like to discuss all topics about all teams and post on all forums here. Anyone calling for Sheens out is clueless. I could have come here and put something like, Sheens is a decent coach but you can't polish a turd. Instead I thought I would give a proper opinion and maybe get some discussion. You know, like a forum? Effort? It took 10 minutes if that.
I will remember to ask your permission next time though.
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:Yes I know he was taking the p***, what about it?
I don't really care if you get relegated or not, but I also aren't one for taking joy from seeing you struggle. I never got that excited about derbys anyway, and after a decade of derby overkill it really is just another game now. I would swap that win on Sunday for us to beat Warrington this week since that would be more useful for our season. I am a rugby league supporter and like to discuss all topics about all teams and post on all forums here. Anyone calling for Sheens out is clueless. I could have come here and put something like, Sheens is a decent coach but you can't polish a turd. Instead I thought I would give a proper opinion and maybe get some discussion. You know, like a forum? Effort? It took 10 minutes if that.
I will remember to ask your permission next time though.
I like what you said it is all true yes it would be a big mistake to get rid of Tim sheens and take no notice of the goose he just like winding people up
the club is in a far healthier state than it was before sheens took over,remember we are a small/medium sized club competing in the top league, it all takes time and with some very promising youngsters in our camp albeit injured he must be allowed to continue the progress,with a bit of luck which we haven't had im sure he can establish us in the top 8
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12648 Location: Leicestershire.
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote: I have seen comments about him identifying lack of size as an issue but not rectifying it for example. Who are all these top class big men queuing up to sign for Rovers?
I agree with most of your post, however I think you exaggerate our expectations here. I agree that top class big men would be a stretch - but we'd seriously benefit from even adding some bigger/more powerful/more aggressive mediocrities at the moment. For a few years now, even in the Championship at the start of each half, our pack has ranged between 'just about holding its own' to 'getting smashed'. I really do struggle to understand why we've repeatedly failed to address it. James Webster's quotes saying we'd be going mobile again in 2018 was one of the most dispiriting Rovers-related things I can remember reading. That it wasn't Sheens making those comments and that he's previously and since made comments about our lack of size makes me wonder a little.
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote: Sheens is a good coach, and if you stick with him he will improve your club. It's a tough patch at the moment, but you have to stick at it. I thought some of you might have learned from the last coach you binned mid season that the grass most definitely isn't always greener.
I don't want Sheens out at all. However, the issue wasn't parting company with Chester - it was replacing him with an interim head coach, giving that interim head coach little to no authority and assuming we'd be okay and could safely focus on the longer-term. I don't think anybody is suggesting we walk that path again!
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Mild Rover wrote:However, the issue wasn't parting company with Chester - it was replacing him with an interim head coach, giving that interim head coach little to no authority and assuming we'd be okay and could safely focus on the longer-term. I don't think anybody is suggesting we walk that path again!
Nope, the real mistake was putting Sandercock in charge of a team that had only a couple of seasons before managed to get into the top four and then let him take the squad apart. That is a gamble we are still paying for. Kris Keating anyone?
Joined: May 07 2018 Posts: 272 Location: East Hull, is wonderful...
Quite a few people seem to think the issues go further up the club, I'm eternally grateful for Hudge and what he's done for hkr but its no secret he's made bad decisions
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