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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:11 am 
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berrigans bitch wrote:Remind me of all your predictions last year, strange thing is you lot never learn and appear to be doing it again :lol: :lol:


I think they varied from 2-8 but most said about 7th. I was wildly optimistic and said 6th - not too shabby I suppose.

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berrigans bitch wrote:Remind me of all your predictions last year, strange thing is you lot never learn and appear to be doing it again :lol: :lol:


I think they varied from 2-8 but most said about 7th. I was wildly optimistic and said 6th - not too shabby I suppose.

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Sheldon wrote:If that's the hkr side I'd be confident.

There's a few changes what would improve the side IMO.



What would they be?
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SirStan wrote:I think they varied from 2-8 but most said about 7th. I was wildly optimistic and said 6th - not too shabby I suppose.

http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=436886


Very interesting looking back at some of the comments from posters...usual garbage from Zoddy & Co :lol:
SirStan wrote:I think they varied from 2-8 but most said about 7th. I was wildly optimistic and said 6th - not too shabby I suppose.

http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=436886


Very interesting looking back at some of the comments from posters...usual garbage from Zoddy & Co :lol:






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maybe just following your trend of thinking your lot would finish second

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EL CAMO wrote:What would they be?
(I promise I won't tell Justin :wink:)


Cockayne
Fox
Webster
Hall
Colburn
Murrell
Dobson
Vella
Fisher
Clinton
Galea
Mason
Watts

Wheeldon
Lovegrove
Newton
Hodgson






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Sheldon wrote:Cockayne
Fox
Webster
Hall
Colburn
Murrell
Dobson
Vella
Fisher
Clinton
Galea
Mason
Watts

Wheeldon
Lovegrove
Newton
Hodgson



For me, Briscoe wasn't that bad to omit from the team, he wasn't at his best but he's a lot more solid that Cockayne at the back.

Hall needs to earn his place in the team so unless he does quite a bit more in pre season than Welham, he should retain his place.

The only other change I'd make is Murrell at loose for Watts and then put him in the front row starting with Vella, dropping Clinton to the bench in place of Wheeldon. I feel this give us better balance in the props, having one as a "holding player" and one providing a more direct contribution. Vella and Lovegrove as the holding players and Clinton and Watts as the more go forward types. I like your idea of Mason starting and hoping for a bit more impact with Newton off the bench, so I'd go with;

Briscoe, Fox, Webster, Welham, Colbon, Green, Dobson, Vella, Fisher, Watts, Mason, Galea, Murrell. Int; Hodgson, Lovegrove, Clinton, Newton.






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Watts ahead of Wheeldon.

Never get confident about derbies, seen too many that have gone 'against' the odds. On paper our 17 is better I think, but the game is played on grass.






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pmh wrote:For me, Briscoe wasn't that bad to omit from the team, he wasn't at his best but he's a lot more solid that Cockayne at the back.

Hall needs to earn his place in the team so unless he does quite a bit more in pre season than Welham, he should retain his place.


The only other change I'd make is Murrell at loose for Watts and then put him in the front row starting with Vella, dropping Clinton to the bench in place of Wheeldon. I feel this give us better balance in the props, having one as a "holding player" and one providing a more direct contribution. Vella and Lovegrove as the holding players and Clinton and Watts as the more go forward types. I like your idea of Mason starting and hoping for a bit more impact with Newton off the bench, so I'd go with;

Briscoe, Fox, Webster, Welham, Colbon, Green, Dobson, Vella, Fisher, Watts, Mason, Galea, Murrell. Int; Hodgson, Lovegrove, Clinton, Newton.


I agree

We have so many options in the forwards e.g. Mason can play anywhere including L/F a bit like Watts did towards the end of the season.
I also wouldn't play Newton from the bench, for me he is one of the best all-round S/R in SL and needs to start.






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Rupert Pupkin wrote:
We have so many options in the forwards e.g. Mason can play anywhere including L/F a bit like Watts did towards the end of the season.


And I in turn, also agree fine Sir. Nice this isn't it. I see Clinton, Vella, Mason, Newton, Lovegrove and Watts as almost interchangeable with Murrell and Galea able to play both loose and SR. I'd like to see us switch these players around during games to mix up the angles and exactly who's doing what. Newton's running out wide is great, but it's much easier to defend against if you know that's what he's likely to do nearly every time he gets the ball.

Rupert Pupkin wrote:I also wouldn't play Newton from the bench, for me he is one of the best all-round S/R in SL and needs to start.


I agree, he is good, but we've flogged him and Galea to death over the last two seasons and I feel that out of the players we have he could cause more damage in spells towards the end of the half. Galea is a much better defender, mainly due to his ability to read the game and would keep things tighter at the start of the game.

It's only an idea of Sheldon's that I've run with a little.






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General Zod. wrote:1. Tansey............ Far too inconsistent and unpredictable where as Briscoe is a proven international
2. Briscoe ........... Potentially a world class centre but Fox generally played better in the derbies last season (cue the "what about that tackle")
3. Whiting............ Lead Wellies is more of a 13 than a prolific try-scoring Welham
4. Yeaman........... Been nothing since Cooke left and never has and never will be in the same class as Webster
5. Sharpe............ Not a bad signing but no where near as tough and durable as Colbon
6. Horne............. FC fans rate him on his performances 5+yrs ago and looks washed up and finished at 27 (no disrespect to the kid) where as Green has everything to prove (and I believe he will do).
7. Long.............. Best days are well behind him (archetypal FC signing). Dobson SL Dream Team 2yrs running (despite James Rule not rating him - "Hello McFly...") :BOW: comical :lol:
8. Fitzgibbon....... An RL legend but injuries now getting the better of him where as Clinton was our best forward last season.
9. Houghton ...... One dimensional dummy-half scooter. Fisher being a proven SL hooker and one who is technically superb.
10. O'Meley........ Still a great player granted. Vella still a great leader.
11. Manu........... A real handful yet Newton probably has the most complete skill set for a 2nd rower in SL.
12. Tickle.......... Fairly consistent but not in Galea's class.
13. Westerman... Poor season last year and allegedly comes with a lot of baggage. Murrell has a superb passing and kicking game, is a great defender (ask Fitzgibbon).

14. Washy......... Predictable right side-step and throws good passes into row Z. Mason is a super-star of World RL.
15. Lauak..........i Hard runner but offers nothing else IMO (spends too much time copying Wrestling moves). Lovegrove is solid workhorse with some expcetional metre stats last season and was Players Player last season.
16. Moa............. Always looked out of shape for me. Cockayne superb pace, aggression and passion.
17. Radford........ Seen better days. Wheeldon now coming into the best form of his career.

Mind you FC are still awaiting their new half-back so I'd expect them to sign someone like Alex Murphy. :lol:






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