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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:45 pm 
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Big Wille the Maneater wrote:Rovers want him so much they are exploiting a 'loop hole' to keep him??? Why not offer him an overseas spot instead of trying to bend the rules??? If Rovers get this through (which I very much doubt) it would make a mockery of the game.


Remind me what club got special dispensation for a whole team of new players ?

Now, that was a mockery :shock:

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Big Wille the Maneater wrote:Rovers want him so much they are exploiting a 'loop hole' to keep him??? Why not offer him an overseas spot instead of trying to bend the rules??? If Rovers get this through (which I very much doubt) it would make a mockery of the game.


Why would it? Its exactly why the rule was broght in but again another person who doesn't take any notice of the full story!

The rule has been brought in to encourage clubs to bring through youngsters, not just British youngsters although that would be an advantage and one the RFL are hoping for.

Rhys is under 21 and is so classed as federation trained which means he is not one of the 10. I would have been disapointed if the club didnt exploit a loophole because it means we can still have the other 10 spots free for quality signings like we've already made.

As a counter for this rule any British players who have received their training up to the age of 21 in Australia will count on the none federation trained list. Those players are very few and far between but this proves the rule isnt JUST to get British youngsters ahead of their Aussie counterparts.

But why let facts get in the way of having a dig at the RFL!






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Enlightened wrote:Remind me what club got special dispensation for a whole team of new players ?

Now, that was a mockery :shock:


Whatever happened then was voted in by the rest of the clubs in SL. Thanks to your chairman :lol: :lol:

Now answer the question on Lovelength or are you going to derail every thread??? :wink:






General Zod wrote:Yeaman will be a Hull Kingston Rovers player in 2008 - FACT...


Wiseman/Roverite/Degreed/Enlightened/League Junkie/Broad Paulerick/Big Spender/Feelgood/Always A Robin...!! wrote:Like already stated Yeaman will be a Rovers player next season. Think the giveaway is he says he is to concerned with on the field matters to discuss his future with the club at present. The article also discusses other East Hull lads at the KC and the possibility of them interesting Rovers, ie Craig Hall, Lee Radford, Richard Horne, Grahame Horne, and Danny Washbrook.

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nick hkr wrote: The rule has been brought in to encourage clubs to bring through youngsters, not just British youngsters although that would be an advantage and one the RFL are hoping for.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I thought better of you. Cannot beleive you actually beleive that :shock: :shock:






General Zod wrote:Yeaman will be a Hull Kingston Rovers player in 2008 - FACT...


Wiseman/Roverite/Degreed/Enlightened/League Junkie/Broad Paulerick/Big Spender/Feelgood/Always A Robin...!! wrote:Like already stated Yeaman will be a Rovers player next season. Think the giveaway is he says he is to concerned with on the field matters to discuss his future with the club at present. The article also discusses other East Hull lads at the KC and the possibility of them interesting Rovers, ie Craig Hall, Lee Radford, Richard Horne, Grahame Horne, and Danny Washbrook.

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If it's a loophole which would benefit our club I'm glad we're looking to exploit it. Not to do so verges on incompetence.
By the way, how's Plummer getting on after his demotion?

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Rules are there to be gotten around, simple as that. Why sould we have him on as a quota player if we don't have to? We could do what some clubs do; just break the rules, then whinge about getting punished.






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Pudsey Robin wrote:Rules are there to be gotten around, simple as that. Why sould we have him on as a quota player if we don't have to? We could do what some clubs do; just break the rules, then whinge about getting punished.


so wigan shouldnt have been punished for thier salary cap indescretions last year then






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Wigan 'broke' the rules, and hence were punished. Had they spotted a loophole and exploited it they would not (could not) have been punished.

It's really not that complicated.

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As posted on my new thread about these rulings the RFL cannot make this rule and use nationality as the reason behind it as that would be against the law.

The rules provide that you qualify (if at all) for club trained and/or federation trained status by the age of 21 – there is no possibility, therefore, of qualifying after that by having played rugby union in Australia and then moving to the UK as you mention. However, the aims and the rules make no reference to nationality and we would not be able to make rules that do so for legal reasons. If the aim is to encourage clubs to develop their own junior players, for the benefit of the individual players and the sport in general, then there may well be cases where British players are not considered club trained or federation trained for the very reason that they are not – the examples that you have raised are being trained in Australia or in another sport. Those examples go against the aim of the rules which is for clubs to train their own players.

Not a loophole to get him through, just using the rules for our advantage.






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Bobbin' Along wrote:Wigan 'broke' the rules, and hence were punished. Had they spotted a loophole and exploited it they would not (could not) have been punished.

It's really not that complicated.



no they didn't they deferred the payments and found a 'loophole' whereby some funds due to players would be paid this season to clear space in the salary cap for last,

this is why they were found guilty of Breaking the SPIRIT of the rules not breaking a rule, and why they were looking to appeal






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