SirStan wrote:Yeaman is a proper bellend when he plays for Hull, but that's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned when he pulls on the national shirt. I have cheered many players at internationals, both RL and football, who I have abused from the terraces at a club game. Perhaps its a tad hypocritical but that's the way it is.
He got the gig primarily due to his combination with Tom Briscoe, but I can't ever make a case for Welham in an England shirt until he learns a few basic defensive techniques on a consistent basis. Maybe a new coaching set up will sort this, maybe it won't.
If it does he will be a regular feature in the National Squad for a few years to come imo.
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Marfa Manu wrote:In relation to your comment on this thread,you said Yeamo is not the best left centre in Hull...You clearly believe Welham is, which is not true at this point, Welhams defense is worse than Yeamo's
Yeaman doesn't have any further improvement in his game, I sincerely hope that, at 24, Welham can continue to improve. He's only had 3 full seasons thus far at SL level. His attack has improved, and elelments of his defence also, although I'm not sure stats will bear that out. He still misses one on ones, and jumps the line. Some folk say he's encourgaed to do this, but if you make that decision you have to nail your man 99% of the time.
Mrs Barista wrote:But you brought it up, by saying Rovers could provide at least one better alternative. So why is Yeaman preferred? I'm not saying I disagree, just interested in why Yeaman is continually selected at the expense of the better Rovers player(s). Can't be to do with league position, clearly.
I also made a point about Rangi Chase which you have failed to mention but that's as expected. I don't play your silly games anymore so have a nice evening
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Marfa Manu wrote:In relation to your comment on this thread,you said Yeamo is not the best left centre in Hull...You clearly believe Welham is, which is not true at this point, Welhams defense is worse than Yeamo's
In fairness, Welham averages 70 missed tackles a season. IMO this is why McNamara must think that, however poor Yeaman is, Welham currently simply cannot be risked against Australia or NZ.
The "partnership with Briscoe" rationale is rubbish IMO. Yeaman if anything holds Briscoe back by providing pretty average centre service to a very good winger.
SirStan wrote:Yeaman doesn't have any further improvement in his game, I sincerely hope that, at 24, Welham can continue to improve. He's only had 3 full seasons thus far at SL level. His attack has improved, and elelments of his defence also, although I'm not sure stats will bear that out. He still misses one on ones, and jumps the line. Some folk say he's encourgaed to do this, but if you make that decision you have to nail your man 99% of the time.
I maybe wrong but I personally put it down to coaching (and maybe the problem has spiraled due to a confidence issue in that area), Kris was always an excellent defender in his youth which suggests to me he is still very capable of improving in that area.
Mrs Barista wrote:In fairness, Welham averages 70 missed tackles a season. IMO this is why McNamara must think that, however poor Yeaman is, Welham currently simply cannot be risked against Australia or NZ.
The "partnership with Briscoe" rationale is rubbish IMO. Yeaman if anything holds Briscoe back by providing pretty average centre service to a very good winger.
Correct on both points....although Yeamo has improved with the pass he still backs himself far too much and probably always will. Briscoe would be world class with a world class centre imo, we have seen his footwork, and speed I would love the Nation to see that.
Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:I also made a point about Rangi Chase which you have failed to mention but that's as expected. I don't play your silly games anymore so have a nice evening
We are still awaiting with baited breath why you consider Welham is the better centre than Yeamo, and what you base this claim on ?
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Mrs Barista wrote:In fairness, Welham averages 70 missed tackles a season. IMO this is why McNamara must think that, however poor Yeaman is, Welham currently simply cannot be risked against Australia or NZ.
The "partnership with Briscoe" rationale is rubbish IMO. Yeaman if anything holds Briscoe back by providing pretty average centre service to a very good winger.
Kris missed 57 from 355 tackles,and Yeaman missed 20 from 224 tackles. Another thing is that Yeaman has experience at international level, although Kris will have gained some experience by playing for the Knights
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