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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:46 pm 
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Roofs wrote:To be honest I think it's now time to finally give Quins the boot (there just isn't the interest down there for RL at Super League level and there never will be), but I agree there's no way the RFL will kick them out, e.g. because doing so would be them admitting they were wrong. :twisted:


I go a lot to Quins and the surprising thing for me is that there are different faces around me each week. I am sure the same people dont ever come back. They come once and then never return!!

They will get it right one day, I just hope it is soon.

A good marketing director will pull that off, the capital has enough people to go at, they just seem content with giving away freebies which dont work as the Rugby is not the best and people never bother to come again.

The dance group for the Cas game was amazing, more stuff like that and the crowd will go up. My Daughter already asked if she can bring some mates next time I take her.

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:46 pm 
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roverlance wrote:worry not fellow robins.....

by the time the licencing comes around well have a completed east stand housing 6000 of the prettiest, most drunken but well behaved rl fans in the world crammed together, arms aloft, singing red red robin.....a brand spanking new north stand with all the commercial and community delights east hull could wish for.....a new 3000 capacity seated away south stand with top notch facilities for the lovely fc fans to half fill on derby day.....ohhh and maybe a new west stand, maybe similar to that one worcester??? have built for the 'other' game

add to that a developing top side formed around the ever improving international shoe ins that are liam watts and josh hodgson and a vibrant youth policy with applicants queing all the way down preston road

forwards is the way my friends :D :thumb: :DRUNK:


2 new stands and the east stand extension by next year?

Whilst I rate watts and to a lesser extent hodgson I'd hardly describe them as "international shoe ins"

Fair play for being positive though






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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:21 pm 
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reddan wrote:Capacity of 12,000 + 1 (hopefully)
Premier competition standard ground 0
Average crowd of 10,000 + 0
Operating at 40 per cent full 1
Turn over £4million + 1
Solvent 1
Contribution to competition 1 (if we finish top 8 this year IIRC)
Junior development 1 (at least eight members of a first-team squad of 25 should be discovered, trained and developed in this country IIRC)
No salary cap breaches 1
No club within 20 miles 0
GRAND TOTAL 7 (at best)
LICENSING GRADE B

Even if we miss out on the capacity and junior development points, 5 is still enough for a B licence. I'd like to think the work we've done at junior level would win a point though. As long as the RFL don't move the goalposts, I think we should be fine.

What has always been a worry to me is their decision to announce at least one club will be replaced. If they are judging clubs strictly on the above criteria, how can they possibly know there'll be a better club outside SL before the applications are submitted?


You're assuming the same criteria are used as for last time's assessments. This is the RFL. :lol:

Although something similar will be used, have the RFL actually said what the criteria are? If no club breaches the cap, for example, because of the live policing by the RFL, this might be dropped. Similarly it is a requirement for 8 homegrown players now rather than an aspirational target, so again this is a minimum standard and therefore irrelevant (for SL club assessments at least) as a differentiator. I still think there might be measure of youth development - could be U20s performances as an example.

Either way Rovers are nailed on IMO for the next round, but as said by others will need to sort the North Stand if others deliver on their new stadium commitments before the 2014 bids . Leigh and Widnes are set in this respect already, and Toulouse I reckon will be looked on favourably after the success of Catalans.

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:54 pm 
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Hopefully they will just add two more teams and make it a 16 team comp where everyone plays each other twice followed by a nice and simple play off system.

It aint gonna happen though.[/quote]

this is something that i would also like to see, 16 teams with the top 8 qualifying, 1st v 8th, 2nd v 7th etc
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reddan wrote:
Either way Rovers are nailed on IMO for the next round, but as said by others will need to sort the North Stand if others deliver on their new stadium commitments before the 2014 bids . Leigh and Widnes are set in this respect already, and Toulouse I reckon will be looked on favourably after the success of Catalans.


halifax aswell maybe???

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:21 pm 
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reddan wrote:Capacity of 12,000 + 1 (hopefully)
Premier competition standard ground 0
Average crowd of 10,000 + 0
Operating at 40 per cent full 1
Turn over £4million + 1
Solvent 1
Contribution to competition 1 (if we finish top 8 this year IIRC)
Junior development 1 (at least eight members of a first-team squad of 25 should be discovered, trained and developed in this country IIRC)
No salary cap breaches 1
No club within 20 miles 0
GRAND TOTAL 7 (at best)
LICENSING GRADE B

Even if we miss out on the capacity and junior development points, 5 is still enough for a B licence. I'd like to think the work we've done at junior level would win a point though. As long as the RFL don't move the goalposts, I think we should be fine.

What has always been a worry to me is their decision to announce at least one club will be replaced. If they are judging clubs strictly on the above criteria, how can they possibly know there'll be a better club outside SL before the applications are submitted?


I very much doubt Rovers meet criteria 5 & 6.






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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:31 pm 
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Gordon Gekko wrote:I very much doubt Rovers meet criteria 5 & 6.


Read it wrong.
Turnover £4 million in debt.
INsolvent.

Clear now :wink:






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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 2:03 am 
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Good crowds, decent team, youth getting stronger, excellent away support and stadium getting better each year.

No chance Rovers wont get a franchise this time round.

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Hkr should be moved to Sheffield.






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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:59 am 
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Sheldon wrote:Hkr should be moved to Sheffield.


Go on... :EH:






"The Mail understands..." NOTHING! :SUBMISSION: :lol:


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