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Scrum half
Poll ended at Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:35 am
James Webster 48%  48%  [ 10 ]
Michael Dobson 43%  43%  [ 9 ]
Latham Tawhai 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 21
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 Post subject: Re: Hull Kingston Rovers- Team of the Decade- Scrum Half
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:34 pm 
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rover49 wrote:As for size, its irrelevant, you should know this supporting a side that had a certain Roger Millward play for it.



The modern game favours the larger players , the 10m rule has seen to that.

Roger often used to play a sweeper role , between the defence line and the full back. He was a good tackler though.






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 Post subject: Re: Hull Kingston Rovers- Team of the Decade- Scrum Half
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rover49 wrote:This seems to indicate to some on here that I have only watched Rovers since SL and don't recall the Joe's, Mansson's, McClarrons etc, when in fact I remember them very well, which is why I have chosen the current players, mainly because they are light years ahead of them.


You're the one who seems to think that if anyone disagrees with you they haven't seen Dobson play :roll:






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Barnacle Bill wrote:You're the one who seems to think that if anyone disagrees with you they haven't seen Dobson play :roll:


No, maybe just just through Webbo loyalty goggles.






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 Post subject: Re: Hull Kingston Rovers- Team of the Decade- Scrum Half
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Dobson does seem the obvious choice but he has been at your club a season and half only. Admittedly he had a great season for you last year and won the accolades for it. But for me he failed to impress in the two big play off games. Of course there were other factors involved in those games as well.


Webbo was instrumental to you getting into the SL as well as helping you stay there in that tough first season.

Tough choice but if it was my club i think Webbo would get the vote just for sentimental reasons alone.






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 Post subject: Re: Hull Kingston Rovers- Team of the Decade- Scrum Half
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rover49 wrote:
As for size, its irrelevant, you should know this supporting a side that had a certain Roger Millward play for it.

don't recall the Joe's, Mansson's, McClarrons etc,


Size isn't everything, I'll give you, but it was a lot less important in Sir Roger's day than now, as already pointed out with the 10 metre rule and full time professionalism small half back are specifically targeted, that's what happened to Webster, as it does with Dobson.

Joe I'll give you, awful for us, carved himself a decent career in Cumbria but no where SL.
McClarron I'd have been interested to see how he went at SL level with full time training and proper coaching as he had raw pace and wasn't a small lad. Not as good as either of our current wingers or Luke Dyer, who I'd have liked us to keep quota allowing, apart from his irritating little brother posting on here!

I chose Mansson over Cooke, purely because in I thought he was better in a red and white shirt on a consistent basis than Cooke's been, he'd have made a great partner to Dobson. Cooke does have the odd flash of extreme brilliance but they're too few and far between for what we're paying him, also our plays indicate as has been well documented above that Morgan appears to lack faith in him.

Give me the circa 2004-05 version of Cooke and I'd snap your hand off, the one we got is a pale imitation.






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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:27 pm 
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rover49 wrote:careful, you will upset the 'bring back Fletch, McClarron, Everitt because they will cut it in Super League' brigade.

Are we voting for THE BEST or are we voting for our favourites ? Cooke is head and shoulders a better player than Mansson.

My vote go's for Dobson, because he is the best scrum half we have had in donkey's years. Webbo is a hero, no doubting that and he served the club well, but he was below average in SL, Dobson is one of the best scrum halves in SL.


Im basing my vote on overall contribution whilst they played in a Rovers shirt. I went for Cockayne over Briscoe, for his contribution to us getting in super league and whilst in super league. Ask me 2 years down the line, Briscoe would probably be my choice. James Webster has contributed more in the last decade then Michael Dobson, therefore he is my choice. Again, ask me in 2/3 years time you may get a different answer.






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dobson hands down...........as for webbo he's an above average NL1 player and before anyone starts making a song as dance ask yourself if he was so good parra would have kept him,we would have kept him,dull would have kept him..as a person dont even get me started..............

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I think if you add the word Influencial to the title it may be more accurate. Dobson is the best but Webster was certainly more important.






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 Post subject: Re: Hull Kingston Rovers- Team of the Decade- Scrum Half
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percy la blanc wrote:if he was so good parra would have kept him,we would have kept him,dull would have kept him..as a person dont even get me started..............


And that argument couldn't be applied to Dobson could it? Oh no!






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percy la blanc wrote:as a person dont even get me started..............


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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.

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