Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:49 pm
General Zod.
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Mrs Barista wrote:In the scenario that he doesn't get a passport, Rovers can't play him but are still contractually obliged to pay him. They're hardly on the front foot to get a "hefty fee".
Neither were Canterbury Bulldogs when Sonny Bill was already at Toulon yet they ended up getting £300,000
The more pertinent point is that Toulon's annual playing budget is £18M so it's more than likely that should Mason go to them, they will want his transition to be as smooth as possible and that would mean them getting Rovers out of the picture with some cash.
Not that I'm that interested in "making a pwofit" because I want to see him on the field but a big transfer fee would be the next best thing.
Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:04 pm
Mrs Barista
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General Zod. wrote:Neither were Canterbury Bulldogs when Sonny Bill was already at Toulon yet they ended up getting £300,000
The more pertinent point is that Toulon's annual playing budget is £18M so it's more than likely that should Mason go to them, they will want his transition to be as smooth as possible and that would mean them getting Rovers out of the picture with some cash.
Not that I'm that interested in "making a pwofit" because I want to see him on the field but a big transfer fee would be the next best thing.
Odd that Wayne Gardiner, RL reporter at the Press Association tweeted this tonight: "Hull KR working out a deal with Toulon for Mason. No transfer fee. Cut and shut. "
Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:14 pm
gingerspice
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Mrs Barista wrote:Odd that Wayne Gardiner, RL reporter at the Press Association tweeted this tonight: "Hull KR working out a deal with Toulon for Mason. No transfer fee. Cut and shut. "
To be honest I can't see how we can be in a position to ask for money for him it's rovers fault willi is in this position, however if he has gone to France on his day off talk to Toulon behind rovers back then what does that say about him, I say if he wants to go let him go so we can move on and put this fiasco behind us, and hope it makes KR think wiser next time, it's just spiralled it's time to put a stop to it now.
Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:19 pm
General Zod.
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Mrs Barista wrote:Odd that Wayne Gardiner, RL reporter at the Press Association tweeted this tonight: "Hull KR working out a deal with Toulon for Mason. No transfer fee. Cut and shut. "
Yes it is odd. Because his statement is a contradiction in terms.
Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:35 pm
Gavin Miller - Legend
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Mrs Barista wrote:Odd that Wayne Gardiner, RL reporter at the Press Association tweeted this tonight: "Hull KR working out a deal with Toulon for Mason. No transfer fee. Cut and shut. "
Wayne was in the same Press Conference as me today. Quite why he has tweeted that is a surprise based on what was said today.
Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:36 pm
Mrs Barista
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General Zod. wrote:Yes it is odd. Because his statement is a contradiction in terms.
OK then, perhaps you have better sources than he does, as a Press Association reporter and former Rovers employee.
I don't really get the relevance of the SBW situtation. SBW just walked out on the Bulldogs, who wanted to keep him as he was a contracted player. In your situation, you have a player who, if he doesn't get his passport, you can't play but are obliged to continue to pay. Unless you would want to continue to do so at least for the rest of the season, I'd imagine you'd be keen to get rid. This is more akin to the Cooke to Wakefield situation than the SBW one IMO. I understand that you'd want to keep him at all costs though, as you were very clear when the signing was announced that it would guarantee you top 4 status this season.
Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:41 pm
Mrs Barista
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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Wayne was in the same Press Conference as me today. Quite why he has tweeted that is a surprise based on what was said today is a surprise
Maybe he has sources/contacts other than the press conference, perhaps in France? Maybe Rovers will get the massive fee from Toulon that Zod is suggesting. But I just don't see that Rovers hold all the cards here in the scenario the passport doesn't arrive. Could be wrong.
Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:47 pm
Gavin Miller - Legend
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Mrs Barista wrote:Maybe he has sources/contacts other than the press conference, perhaps in France? Maybe Rovers will get the massive fee from Toulon that Zod is suggesting. But I just don't see that Rovers hold all the cards here in the scenario the passport doesn't arrive. Could be wrong.
Your saying a RL reporter in the North of England has sources in the South of France RU circle If the passport doesnt come then Rovers are up the creek, Hudge admitted that.
Post subject: Re: The sensible, forward-looking Mason/Dobson thread
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:55 pm
Mrs Barista
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Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:Your saying a RL reporter in the North of England has sources in the South of France RU circle
David Burns does.
Gavin Miller - Legend wrote:If the passport doesnt come then Rovers are up the creek, Hudge admitted that.
I think it depends on timing also. He said he'd be disappointed if Willie's been to France to schmooze with a French Club RU President on a day off. On the other hand, he can't really blame Mason for exploring the possibilities as essentially Rovers are restraining him from plying his trade currently, and at 31 and in good shape he probably wants to play as much as he can over the next few years.
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