Well I have to admit you really do have first hand knowledge about positions 10-12.

Us? I don't really remember. We haven't been down in those depths since our first season in Super League.

On the other hand you have been down in the depths for ages now. So come on tell us all, what's it like?

It is a depressing place to be...you may get the opportunity to experience it this year

Like the 20+ years before they came up.

That which does not kill us makes us stronger.

yes i do have 1st hand knowledge of those positions and in my view you look as crap as we looked in 2008 and 2009 (and come on you lot was only down in those depths the year before then)

hope this helps you forecast your year ahead

OMG the arrogance comming off some of you Hull fans is funny! The season is a long one, and as we have been reminded when we made good starts to the season previously, it is a marathon not a sprint! Remember your good start last year? Turned out not too clever, not saying it is going to happen this year, but as we all well know, predictions on the eight can not be accurately made at this stage of the season. Every team will have ups and downs during the course of the season, and we all know early crowing can come back to bite you on the ass

Lets face it anyone can get 3 million in debt to have a half decent RL team

Is that the best response you have? I'm dissapointed! I thought we were all regulated by a salary cap? I was unaware that we had the advantage of spending more on players, silly me! Pretty rubbish thing to come out with, considering my above point and the fact we have had to invest a huge anount in ground improvements, but don't let those two things get in the way of a cheap shot.

it wasnt pretty but a wins a win, another 2 points on board

cas were poor and sherwin had a shocker , good 2 points for rovers but not many sides will give points away like castleford did last night !