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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:17 pm 
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The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:It's taken 8 pages, but you finally got 1 post that backs up your original post. Must be true then! :roll:


You calling him a liar? Seems to be the only sensible rovers fan on the forum






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The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:Your crowds almost doubled when you moved to the KC, despite no success. compare that when, after winning the cup in 2005, the following year saw a massive increase of 300.

Really supports your "success = crowds" theory!

http://www.slstats.org/t9/Hull%20FC/


HUll's crowds have gone up primarilly due to us having our best side in many years, having a competitive side in SL rather than one at the bottom (last 2 seasons excepted :lol: ), a general increase in SL crowds and increased interest in the city due to rovers being in SL.

Hull have always had a bigger following than rovers and the current gap between the 2 % wise is where it has traditionally been when both sides were doing well. I doubt if having better facilities would suddenly gives your crowds a big boost. They would likely go up but you wouldn't be getting 1000's more at caravan park purely down to that.

You also have to remember that 6000 or so of the current fans you get had no interest in the club 4 years ago. I doubt there are many more who would want to go who don't because your ground isn't up to scratch
The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:Your crowds almost doubled when you moved to the KC, despite no success. compare that when, after winning the cup in 2005, the following year saw a massive increase of 300.

Really supports your "success = crowds" theory!

http://www.slstats.org/t9/Hull%20FC/


HUll's crowds have gone up primarilly due to us having our best side in many years, having a competitive side in SL rather than one at the bottom (last 2 seasons excepted :lol: ), a general increase in SL crowds and increased interest in the city due to rovers being in SL.

Hull have always had a bigger following than rovers and the current gap between the 2 % wise is where it has traditionally been when both sides were doing well. I doubt if having better facilities would suddenly gives your crowds a big boost. They would likely go up but you wouldn't be getting 1000's more at caravan park purely down to that.

You also have to remember that 6000 or so of the current fans you get had no interest in the club 4 years ago. I doubt there are many more who would want to go who don't because your ground isn't up to scratch






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Jake the Peg wrote:HUll's crowds have gone up primarilly due to us having our best side in many years, having a competitive side in SL rather than one at the bottom (last 2 seasons excepted :lol: ), a general increase in SL crowds and increased interest in the city due to rovers being in SL.

Hull have always had a bigger following than rovers and the current gap between the 2 % wise is where it has traditionally been when both sides were doing well. I doubt if having better facilities would suddenly gives your crowds a big boost. They would likely go up but you wouldn't be getting 1000's more at caravan park purely down to that.

You also have to remember that 6000 or so of the current fans you get had no interest in the club 4 years ago. I doubt there are many more who would want to go who don't because your ground isn't up to scratch


Melbourne Storm barely average a 3rd that of Brisane Broncos. Hey ho.






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Jake the Peg wrote:You also have to remember that 6000 or so of the current fans you get had no interest in the club 4 years ago. I doubt there are many more who would want to go who don't because your ground isn't up to scratch


I could say the same about your club, Both clubs have a healthy proportion of "johnny come latelys".

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Jake the Peg wrote:You calling him a liar? Seems to be the only sensible rovers fan on the forum


Ha. Can you edit that to include my name? I need a new sig. :wink:

Seriously though, building a 14k capacity stadium and having a 14k average are two different things.

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Jake the Peg wrote:HUll's crowds have gone up primarilly due to us having our best side in many years, having a competitive side in SL rather than one at the bottom (last 2 seasons excepted :lol: ), a general increase in SL crowds and increased interest in the city due to rovers being in SL.

Hull have always had a bigger following than rovers and the current gap between the 2 % wise is where it has traditionally been when both sides were doing well. I doubt if having better facilities would suddenly gives your crowds a big boost. They would likely go up but you wouldn't be getting 1000's more at caravan park purely down to that.

You also have to remember that 6000 or so of the current fans you get had no interest in the club 4 years ago. I doubt there are many more who would want to go who don't because your ground isn't up to scratch



A valid post except for the "caravan" jibe that is totally infantile

And the last bit.






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pintolager wrote:A valid post except for the "caravan" jibe that is totally infantile

And the last bit.


What's wrong with the last bit?

Do you think there are many rovers fans sat around not going to watch their side after they finished 4th? As I said, Hull are only really back where they peaked in the 80's. It's not as if they've suddenly found lots of fans they never had. Some will have died and new ones come along but the fan base is pretty muche where it is






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Still so many people are missing the point. The ambition shown by rovers is superb for the game. If every club had this much ambition the game would be doing alot better. How good would super league be if every small club could get crowds like Hull KR with a team like Hull KR? Not calling Hull KR a small club btw but the likes of Cas and Wakey are not as big as Leeds. People talking about numbers and averages and how many rovers would take to a final is all pointless, most of it from FC fans scared that KR are having some good times for once, open your eyes and be pleased that a RL club is doing well. I personally was chuffed when Saints announced they were building a new stadium and crowds had gone up. This petty debating over a number is really childish, look at the bigger picture.






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Odemwingie wrote:Still so many people are missing the point. The ambition shown by rovers is superb for the game. If every club had this much ambition the game would be doing alot better. How good would super league be if every small club could get crowds like Hull KR with a team like Hull KR? Not calling Hull KR a small club btw but the likes of Cas and Wakey are not as big as Leeds. People talking about numbers and averages and how many rovers would take to a final is all pointless, most of it from FC fans scared that KR are having some good times for once, open your eyes and be pleased that a RL club is doing well. I personally was chuffed when Saints announced they were building a new stadium and crowds had gone up. This petty debating over a number is really childish, look at the bigger picture.


:CLAP: Nice post mate, however I feel you are wasting your time with many of our "friends" from across town. Rovers have never averaged more than 10K before, so it's impossible for it to ever happen. That would appear to be the logic.

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Jake the Peg wrote:You also have to remember that 6000 or so of the current fans you get had no interest in the club 4 years ago. I doubt there are many more who would want to go who don't because your ground isn't up to scratch


I do. I know plenty of people who don't go to games because they can't get a covered seat, or a spot in the east stand. As it stands, fans need to buy a season pass to get in the proper areas of the ground and thereā€™s a lot of people who can't afford or commit to that.

Match day 'walk up' support would increase if people knew they could get in the covered areas of the ground with a better view and atmosphere and theres loads of families who wont go because they don't like been stuck in the temp north stand exposed to the elements and poorer view.

Despite what you say, the likes of yourselves, wigan and wire have all experienced decent increases in support after moving to new stadia. If a hull fan fancies going to a game every now and then, he'll almost certainly get a good seat even if he only decides to go 10 minutes before kick-off. With us, that fan would need a whole season pass to realistically guarantee a decent spot in the ground.

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