Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:56 am
Sandro II Terrorista
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Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
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Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:15 am
Digger_the_Dog
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Joined: Jan 28 2009 Posts: 951
very red robin wrote:When do you see it when you arrive into Hull? I go in and out of Hull every day and over the bridge and dont recall see'ing it coming into Hull - so please enlighten me.
Who are you to say we dont need another one? most cities have more then 1 decent stadium and it does no harm - Manc, Liverpool, Leeds, Sheffield to name just a few northern cities.
And theres 2 main reasons i dont want us to move into the KC; 1 - Sharing a stadium with FC (that wouldnt have red seats in it so wont look like its ours when we play there. 2 - its not central at all its in WEST park, there was (not sure if still is) loads of room near were the Deep/Premier Inn are located - in my book that is smack in the town centre of Hull and in a cracking location.
I see the Stadium every time I return from London, Donny etc on a train!!
Where exactly near the deep did you want a stadium building? A stadium needs car parks, out buildings, roads in etc and that is before you incluide the size of the stadium itself.
As for the Cities you have listed there is a general trend in all of them. They have succesful sporting clubs. We have a second rate soccer side, a Super League Rugby team that has won very few trophies in recent years (FC) and a side that has won nothing in the last 20 years (KR). At what point as a man with public money to spend would you think 'hmmm I think we need to take this sporting mecca and turn it into a dual stadium City'
I am 100% sure that should Rovers agree to pay much more rent than they do for the shed they currently use the SMC would change the colour of some seats just for them.
In fact I know 100% that Adam Pearson would gladly have them there, he has said as much.
Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:55 pm
very red robin
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Joined: Mar 22 2009 Posts: 2397 Location: East Hull
Digger_the_Dog wrote:I see the Stadium every time I return from London, Donny etc on a train!!
Where exactly near the deep did you want a stadium building? A stadium needs car parks, out buildings, roads in etc and that is before you incluide the size of the stadium itself. As for the Cities you have listed there is a general trend in all of them. They have succesful sporting clubs. We have a second rate soccer side, a Super League Rugby team that has won very few trophies in recent years (FC) and a side that has won nothing in the last 20 years (KR). At what point as a man with public money to spend would you think 'hmmm I think we need to take this sporting mecca and turn it into a dual stadium City'
I am 100% sure that should Rovers agree to pay much more rent than they do for the shed they currently use the SMC would change the colour of some seats just for them.
In fact I know 100% that Adam Pearson would gladly have them there, he has said as much.
Sorry but im sure i listed Leeds and especially Sheffield in that group - remind me how there "sporting mecca" football/rugby clubs are doing.... Sheffield - 2 football clubs doing absolutely nothing (at least city made a go of it in the prem and stayed up) and dont even get me started on there RL side.
I never said i wanted a stadium built near the deep - i ment that for the central location to suit all fans, as the KC is not central i dont care how many 100% you put in your quote - it is in West Park in WEST Hull. If we were getting own stadium i think East Park would be a great location but parking would be a major issue, as i wouldnt want all the park taking over.
Can you explain why you are so against East Hull having a new stadium built somewere then? Because im sure it could have speedway/Dogs/Athletics built into it which would benifit Hull on a whole with school programmes been involved ect. Sports development grants have nothing to do with money for the homeless/drugs and the like - they are all seperate issues.
I just dont understand why anyone from Hull would be so against this happening...
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Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:59 pm
Big Dave T
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Joined: Mar 31 2004 Posts: 29160 Location: Hull
very red robin wrote:Sorry but im sure i listed Leeds and especially Sheffield in that group - remind me how there "sporting mecca" football/rugby clubs are doing.... Sheffield - 2 football clubs doing absolutely nothing (at least city made a go of it in the prem and stayed up) and dont even get me started on there RL side.
I never said i wanted a stadium built near the deep - i ment that for the central location to suit all fans, as the KC is not central i dont care how many 100% you put in your quote - it is in West Park in WEST Hull. If we were getting own stadium i think East Park would be a great location but parking would be a major issue, as i wouldnt want all the park taking over.
Can you explain why you are so against East Hull having a new stadium built somewere then? Because im sure it could have speedway/Dogs/Athletics built into it which would benifit Hull on a whole with school programmes been involved ect. Sports development grants have nothing to do with money for the homeless/drugs and the like - they are all seperate issues.
I just dont understand why anyone from Hull would be so against this happening...
The council looked at 5 or 6 city wide sites when reviewing where to build a stadium and only the current circle ground met most of the criteria. They also looked at places like Hedon road and Kingswood which didnt measure up.
Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:15 pm
jj151201
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Joined: Apr 06 2010 Posts: 88 Location: EAST HULL
[/quote]I just dont understand why anyone from Hull would be so against this happening...[/quote]
I agree and because I am getting plenty of our petitions signed, as are a lot of others, I can confirm we have had a good response from a few black and white supporters, who also agree its good for the community, they can understand why we are promoting the sporting aspect, regardless of whether its to do with Rovers! They have even signed "Hull FC and Proud" and I treat that with the same respect that they did when they supported our campaign! I also got plenty of Bulls fans signing also and they dont even live here!! Anyone wanting a copy of our petition, who thinks they could get some signatures please PM me.
Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:01 pm
Jake the Peg
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Joined: Mar 22 2007 Posts: 30474
very red robin wrote:Sorry but im sure i listed Leeds and especially Sheffield in that group - remind me how there "sporting mecca" football/rugby clubs are doing.... Sheffield - 2 football clubs doing absolutely nothing (at least city made a go of it in the prem and stayed up) and dont even get me started on there RL side.
I never said i wanted a stadium built near the deep - i ment that for the central location to suit all fans, as the KC is not central i dont care how many 100% you put in your quote - it is in West Park in WEST Hull. If we were getting own stadium i think East Park would be a great location but parking would be a major issue, as i wouldnt want all the park taking over.
Can you explain why you are so against East Hull having a new stadium built somewere then? Because im sure it could have speedway/Dogs/Athletics built into it which would benifit Hull on a whole with school programmes been involved ect. Sports development grants have nothing to do with money for the homeless/drugs and the like - they are all seperate issues.
I just dont understand why anyone from Hull would be so against this happening...
None of the places you mention have 2 stadia built, paid for and owned by the local authority though. If rovers want to fund the build themselves, like liverpool and everton are looking to do, then I'm sure no one would have any objections
Post subject: Re: east hull needs and deserves a new super stadium
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:16 pm
Mild Rover
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Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
Jake the Peg wrote:None of the places you mention have 2 stadia built, paid for and owned by the local authority though. If rovers want to fund the build themselves, like liverpool and everton are looking to do, then I'm sure no one would have any objections
Not many places have one stadium paid for and owned by the local authority - there is the benefit of precedence. FWIW.
The fact that clubs the size of Everton and Liverpool in a sport as moneyed as football are, and have been for a while, trying to fund their own new stadiums shows how hard it is. Rovers have done about as much as they can under their own steam. Even if they could, there'd be plenty of objections to East Park, I reckon.
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