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reddan wrote:Neil Hudgel said the aim was to get the capacity up to around 14k and and try and fill it or get it as near to full as possible week-in-week out. This was mentioned about a year ago and he said they felt it would be realistic to aim for that within the next 5 years. It's not exactly a 14k 'average', but an ambitious project to get crowds up to that sort of level.
Don't get me wrong it'll take a great deal of hardwork and is totally dependent on the development of the stadium, but the catchment area is easily big enough to generate that level of matchday support so it surprises me that having gone from 2/3k to 8/9k in 3 years, people think it's unrealistic.
Not strictly true. If we develop the stadium and let the product on the pitch deteriorate then crowds will dwindle not grow. This is the reason why we can't just run at 500k below cap to redress the losses, without the standard being maintained (or improved) on the pitch, I'm not convinced we have sufficient loyalty amongst our current 8,500 regulars to stay with the club. Maybe 7,000 would turn up to watch poop every week (like in 2007 when we only won 3 home games), but the rest demand quality.
The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:Not strictly true. If we develop the stadium and let the product on the pitch deteriorate then crowds will dwindle not grow. This is the reason why we can't just run at 500k below cap to redress the losses, without the standard being maintained (or improved) on the pitch, I'm not convinced we have sufficient loyalty amongst our current 8,500 regulars to stay with the club. Maybe 7,000 would turn up to watch poop every week (like in 2007 when we only won 3 home games), but the rest demand quality.
I didn't mean it like that, I meant without the development of the stadium it couldn't happen.
reddan wrote:Neil Hudgel said the aim was to get the capacity up to around 14k and and try and fill it or get it as near to full as possible week-in-week out. This was mentioned about a year ago and he said they felt it would be realistic to aim for that within the next 5 years. It's not exactly a 14k 'average', but an ambitious project to get crowds up to that sort of level.
Don't get me wrong it'll take a great deal of hardwork and is totally dependent on the development of the stadium, but the catchment area is easily big enough to generate that level of matchday support so it surprises me that having gone from 2/3k to 8/9k in 3 years, people think it's unrealistic.
Cheers. So seems that my mate knows more than most on here about the aspirations of your club ( surprised that our esteemed member of teh local press didn't know this one)
I humbly apologise for grasping the wrong end of the stick.
Ha, no worries. You made a fair point anyway, but I actually think facilities counts for a lot. Look how hull's attendances increased with the kc move, and whilst they dropped a little last year, they still get good crowds despite having had two very mediocre seasons on the bounce.
Fact is as it stands unless you can commit/afford a season pass, you're either going to get a poor view or at best an average seat exposed to the elements watching Rovers. Increase the capacity and improve the facilities and suddenly you appeal to those who can't/won't buy a pass (and thats a hell of a lot of people).
Jake the Peg wrote:Cheers. So seems that my mate knows more than most on here about the aspirations of your club ( surprised that our esteemed member of teh local press didn't know this one)
GML was refering to Hudge's recent comments that it is important to aim for a 10k average. That is the short term aim, but he has said that long-term we would be looking closer to 14k.
reddan wrote:Ha, no worries. You made a fair point anyway, but I actually think facilities counts for a lot. Look how hull's attendances increased with the kc move, and whilst they dropped a little last year, they still get good crowds despite having had two very mediocre seasons on the bounce.
Fact is as it stands unless you can commit/afford a season pass, you're either going to get a poor view or at best an average seat exposed to the elements watching Rovers. Increase the capacity and improve the facilities and suddenly you appeal to those who can't/won't buy a pass (and thats a hell of a lot of people).
I disagree. Hull get good crowds because they have had some success in the recent past and the increased interest from rover being in SL. There will be an element of improvement due to the stadium but not that significant IMO. Hull are basically where they were in 1982/83 in attendance terms.
There are plenty of other sports teams in new stadiums who haven't seen massive increase in attendances
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Jake the Peg wrote:Cheers. So seems that my mate knows more than most on here about the aspirations of your club ( surprised that our esteemed member of teh local press didn't know this one)
It's taken 8 pages, but you finally got 1 post that backs up your original post. Must be true then!
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Jake the Peg wrote:I disagree. Hull get good crowds because they have had some success in the recent past and the increased interest from rover being in SL. There will be an element of improvement due to the stadium but not that significant IMO. Hull are basically where they were in 1982/83 in attendance terms.
There are plenty of other sports teams in new stadiums who haven't seen massive increase in attendances
Your crowds almost doubled when you moved to the KC, despite no success. compare that when, after winning the cup in 2005, the following year saw a massive increase of 300.
Jake the Peg wrote:I disagree. Hull get good crowds because they have had some success in the recent past and the increased interest from rover being in SL. There will be an element of improvement due to the stadium but not that significant IMO. Hull are basically where they were in 1982/83 in attendance terms.
There are plenty of other sports teams in new stadiums who haven't seen massive increase in attendances
Your crowds almost doubled when you moved to the KC, despite no success. compare that when, after winning the cup in 2005, the following year saw a massive increase of 300.
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