Post subject: Re: The fans of both hull clubs deserve better?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:03 pm
Mild Rover
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We're not really any more or less deserving than other clubs' fans. Most teams don't win anything most years - disappointment is normal, and we should be inured to it. Lame displays from both clubs this weekend, especially Rovers toothless first 40 (worse than the second half against Wakefield? not quite IMO, but close). But Leeds are triple champions and the Giants are like Kryptonite to Hull KR. I think the intensity of the derby, while great in itself, hinders both teams. Hull haven't won since, iirc, while Rovers couldn't rest/rotate players (as Hudds did against Salford), as they needed results to raise spirits.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Post subject: Re: The fans of both hull clubs deserve better?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:16 pm
very red robin
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Rupert Pupkin wrote:I still dont agree with that comment no matter how many times I read it, we was pretty consistent all year and deserved to finish where we did!
It depends how you look at it IMO, we were consistent and deserved the position we finished with - But that doesnt mean we didnt over achieve throughout the season - even the club said stay up, consolidate and progress, not stay up, consolidate and then pressure the pointy end of the table.
o·ver·a·chieve /ˌoʊvərəˈtʃiv/ Show Spelled[oh-ver-uh-cheev] Show IPA –verb (used without object),-chieved, -chiev·ing. 1.to perform, esp. academically, above the potential indicated by tests of one's mental ability or aptitude. 2.to perform better or achieve more than expected, esp. by others.
Our potential indicated through preseason didnt show us as a top 4 team - thats why i say over achieved.
[quote="Adeybull"] so the panel took the same view as your excellent assessment.[/quote]
Post subject: Re: The fans of both hull clubs deserve better?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:21 pm
PAUL M
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MrPhilb wrote:Well do we?
Or are both clubs just there to make up the numbers and spring the odd shock now and again?
Me and my mate were chatting yesterday about the two Hull clubs. I know it's a sore subject but we were discussing about where we would be had we agreed to merge the two clubs. Both sets of fans travel in huge numbers so our combined away support would have been amazing. The home crowds would have been close to 20k every week. We reckoned that we would be one of the best sides in the league. Yes there would have been some initial fall out with the fan but a few years down the line that would have died out imo.
Anyway it never happened but it was an interesting discussion nevertheless.
Post subject: Re: The fans of both hull clubs deserve better?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:30 pm
very red robin
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PAUL M wrote:Me and my mate were chatting yesterday about the two Hull clubs. I know it's a sore subject but we were discussing about where we would be had we agreed to merge the two clubs. Both sets of fans travel in huge numbers so our combined away support would have been amazing. The home crowds would have been close to 20k every week. We reckoned that we would be one of the best sides in the league. Yes there would have been some initial fall out with the fan but a few years down the line that would have died out imo.
Anyway it never happened but it was an interesting discussion nevertheless.
I had similar discussions before the derby, our conclusion was they would need to build a stadium pretty much were the deep is for both set of fans to be anywere near close to been happy about the location. We would also have to wear a Kit which makes us all look like Denis the Menace I said a 22k average after the initial agro between both set of fans singing there own songs. But after plenty of thought, i still could'nt come up with a decent team name or mascot.
[quote="Adeybull"] so the panel took the same view as your excellent assessment.[/quote]
Post subject: Re: The fans of both hull clubs deserve better?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:34 pm
clockwork mouse
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very red robin wrote:I had similar discussions before the derby, our conclusion was they would need to build a stadium pretty much were the deep is for both set of fans to be anywere near close to been happy about the location. We would also have to wear a Kit which makes us all look like Denis the Menace I said a 22k average after the initial agro between both set of fans singing there own songs. But after plenty of thought, i still could'nt come up with a decent team name or mascot.
PAUL M wrote:Me and my mate were chatting yesterday about the two Hull clubs. I know it's a sore subject but we were discussing about where we would be had we agreed to merge the two clubs. Both sets of fans travel in huge numbers so our combined away support would have been amazing. The home crowds would have been close to 20k every week. We reckoned that we would be one of the best sides in the league. Yes there would have been some initial fall out with the fan but a few years down the line that would have died out imo.
Anyway it never happened but it was an interesting discussion nevertheless.
One powerful club such as a FC/Rovers hybrid will do little for the game as a whole tho' and reduce competition ... with such a strong supporter base it may well blow the rest away!
Post subject: Re: The fans of both hull clubs deserve better?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:39 pm
PAUL M
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very red robin wrote:I had similar discussions before the derby, our conclusion was they would need to build a stadium pretty much were the deep is for both set of fans to be anywere near close to been happy about the location. We would also have to wear a Kit which makes us all look like Denis the Menace I said a 22k average after the initial agro between both set of fans singing there own songs. But after plenty of thought, i still could'nt come up with a decent team name or mascot.
Post subject: Re: The fans of both hull clubs deserve better?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:41 pm
PAUL M
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Basil Fawlty wrote:One powerful club such as a FC/Rovers hybrid will do little for the game as a whole tho' and reduce competition ... with such a strong supporter base it may well blow the rest away!
The RFL would be bricking it, they don't like the Hul clubs as it is.
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