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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:57 pm 
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... isons.html

And this is the view of the guy that represents prison officers.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... isons.html

And this is the view of the guy that represents prison officers.

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Big Dave T wrote:Dont know what East Ham means mate?

My wife has been on courses with senior officials from prisons in the UK who have said it is mandated that prisoners have the rights to TV's etc. I didnt realise til i read this article that they pay for the TV's. £1 per week is stupid, especially in view of the comparison made in this article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ients.html


The Daily Mail :lol:

I hope our respect of the Geneva Conventions set us aside from the likes of the Taliban.
Big Dave T wrote:Dont know what East Ham means mate?

My wife has been on courses with senior officials from prisons in the UK who have said it is mandated that prisoners have the rights to TV's etc. I didnt realise til i read this article that they pay for the TV's. £1 per week is stupid, especially in view of the comparison made in this article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ients.html


The Daily Mail :lol:

I hope our respect of the Geneva Conventions set us aside from the likes of the Taliban.

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ComeOnYouUll wrote:The Daily Mail :lol:

I hope our respect of the Geneva Conventions set us aside from the likes of the Taliban.


Ah ok. :oops:

I believe the Human Rights Act is a good think in large and provides good guidelines to follow in general. I do feel its abused to give rights to people that shouldnt have them, such as the prisoners mentioned above. I believe if you are found guilty of any crime you waive your human rights and should be punished.

Ive not seen an update but since the Human Rights Act ive read that prisoners are thinking about taking legal action to be able to vote as this isnt a right that prisoners have. Has this been changed yet?

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http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellite/t ... tions.html

Playstations too. :lol:

Im on a roll now.
http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellite/t ... tions.html

Playstations too. :lol:

Im on a roll now.

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Although his actions are understandable from our point of view, Operational Law (comprising Law of the Land, International Law, Military Law and Geneva Convention) states we must not ill-treat prisoners or those in custody in any way for any reason. We must master the art of switching between war fighting and peacekeeping and winning hearts and minds at the flick of a switch. Regardless, an incident as small as this one will disappear with a back-hander!

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HullKingstonDeano wrote:Although his actions are understandable from our point of view, Operational Law (comprising Law of the Land, International Law, Military Law and Geneva Convention) states we must not ill-treat prisoners or those in custody in any way for any reason. We must master the art of switching between war fighting and peacekeeping and winning hearts and minds at the flick of a switch. Regardless, an incident as small as this one will disappear with a back-hander!


IMO the Geneva Convention should only be adhered to when the enemy abides by it aswell. We all know how any captured prisoners would be treated by the Taliban.

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Quote:IMO the Geneva Convention should only be adhered to when the enemy abides by it aswell. We all know how any captured prisoners would be treated by the Taliban.


Queeensbury rules sir..'tis the gentleman's way..don'cha know !!

BUT seriously..why should we stoop as low as the enemy, an enemy who we are fighting BECAUSE they stoop so low !!

(PS I would prefer this thread on the sin bin rather than on a club board)

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 Post subject: Re: O/T War Crime Debacle
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Big Spender wrote:Story in today's press about the soldier who is being put on trial for a so called "war crime". He punched a Taliban suspect who is accused of blowing up and killing his best friend after laying a previous bomb. The soldier lost it for a few seconds after the fanatic laughed in his face after being arrested whilst laying another.

O.K. he was wrong but being charged with a "war crime" which, if found guilty will mean prison and the loss of his career for losing it with a piece of poop for a few seconds is nothing more than a massive over reaction.

If it wasn't for the P.C. brigrade the problem would never have surfaced if the neccesary course of action had been taken whilst he was planting the device.

The pc brigade are a cancer in our society and i despise them with a vengeance the sooner we get a goverment in power who tells them to go to hell the better our society will be in my opinion. :x

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should of strung the f@@@er up!!!

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Bertie wrote:IMO the Geneva Convention should only be adhered to when the enemy abides by it aswell. We all know how any captured prisoners would be treated by the Taliban.


Nah, still no excuse. For the folliwng reasons:

1. We expect to be given the best chance possible if we become prisoners 'at' war, not used to have revenge taken out on us.

2. Dishing out indescriminate beatings is not going to win over the population which, of course, is one of our aims.

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