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Terry Monster wrote:How come he is homegrown?
I thought he was trained down under?


It's a pretty gash ruling from the RFL that players can be exempt from such rules, not just in this case, but any similar case. What's the point having overseas quota's and restrictions if there are ways around them?
We got him in when he was young enough im guessing.
As for the rest of it the current rules only apply to players in SL pre feb 2008.
Even then it seems (The RFL had to clarifiy this as their first press release was far from exact on the subject) it only applies to players who would have a right to work here (EU passport) or Kolpac that narrows us down to just Vella (Maltese) and Fisher (Scottish) when those 2 leave or quit we will be down to the same number as everyone else.
Although with all that said there will be a fair few players in SL who fall in the correct situatiuon (Pre feb 08+EU passport/kolpac) who will all recive Fed trained status to keep the numbers higher than they should be.






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Lima's contracted for another few seasons so I cant see this one coming off. I've seen the quota rules and cant figure out how vella is off quota. Lovegrove and fisher yes.






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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Roverswall wrote:We got him in when he was young enough im guessing.
As for the rest of it the current rules only apply to players in SL pre feb 2008.
Even then it seems (The RFL had to clarifiy this as their first press release was far from exact on the subject) it only applies to players who would have a right to work here (EU passport) or Kolpac that narrows us down to just Vella (Maltese) and Fisher (Scottish) when those 2 leave or quit we will be down to the same number as everyone else.
Although with all that said there will be a fair few players in SL who fall in the correct situatiuon (Pre feb 08+EU passport/kolpac) who will all recive Fed trained status to keep the numbers higher than they should be.


Let's see if I have got this correct.

Because Vella and Fisher were at Rovers PRE 08, they have the chance to become exempt from the ruling bec ause they are EU passport holders and 'if' they re-sign with the Rovers. If they signed with another club they would still be classified as overseas trained?

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Sheldon wrote:Lima's contracted for another few seasons so I cant see this one coming off. I've seen the quota rules and cant figure out how vella is off quota. Lovegrove and fisher yes.


Me neither, super prop though.






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Terry Monster wrote:Let's see if I have got this correct.

Because Vella and Fisher were at Rovers PRE 08, they have the chance to become exempt from the ruling bec ause they are EU passport holders and 'if' they re-sign with the Rovers. If they signed with another club they would still be classified as overseas trained?


You can keep players that take you over the quota but you dont free up room to buy another player by doing this afaik. It's a stupidly complex rule.

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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:You can keep players that take you over the quota but you dont free up room to buy another player by doing this afaik. It's a stupidly complex rule.


Ya telling me, R Kid.

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Roverswall wrote:We got him in when he was young enough im guessing.
As for the rest of it the current rules only apply to players in SL pre feb 2008.
Even then it seems (The RFL had to clarifiy this as their first press release was far from exact on the subject) it only applies to players who would have a right to work here (EU passport) or Kolpac that narrows us down to just Vella (Maltese) and Fisher (Scottish) when those 2 leave or quit we will be down to the same number as everyone else.
Although with all that said there will be a fair few players in SL who fall in the correct situatiuon (Pre feb 08+EU passport/kolpac) who will all recive Fed trained status to keep the numbers higher than they should be.


if i'm right, i may not be, your wrong there.

fisher would be on the 4 year residency rule and vella wouldn't qualify.

the rule you talk of only applies if the player is in his last year of contract, when vella and fisher extended their contracts they both had over a year to run.






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The Reason wrote:Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Terry Monster wrote:Let's see if I have got this correct.

Because Vella and Fisher were at Rovers PRE 08, they have the chance to become exempt from the ruling bec ause they are EU passport holders and 'if' they re-sign with the Rovers. If they signed with another club they would still be classified as overseas trained?


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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:You can keep players that take you over the quota but you dont free up room to buy another player by doing this afaik. It's a stupidly complex rule.


The lawyers on here may contradict this, but I was told that these 'rules' are not enforceable in law, so the RFL had to come up with something to allow EU passport holders who are not club/fed trained to stay. Any EU passport holder is entitled to work in any EU state, so by saying to a player who is originally from Aus, but has been granted EU status by somewhere like Malta 'you cannot ply your trade as a rugby league player in the UK' would in effect be breaking EU employment/freedom of movement of labour laws.

I doubt even the brave folk at Red Hall would fancy that fight.






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