nick hkr wrote:Shouldnt matter if he had stopped the ball carrying arm had not hit the deck and the referee hadn't called held so try was or should have been the only option left open to him.

I may be wrong here but I think the only time a video referee can adjudge a tackle to be completed is when the ball carrying arm has touched the floor.

I am not saying I agree with the rules I just think that Warrington were hard done to on that call after what has happened in the past.

Although rather different if we go back to the NRC Final in Blackpool where I think it was Scott Murrell was being tackled but in the motion of passing the ball his ball carrying hand brushed the grass and he was done for passing off the floor yet the tackle was not complete. This in real time should have been a try but on the video replay by the letter of the law it had to be chalked off.

I just guess it goes back to Justins old line of "things even themselves up over the season" and you cant disagree with that we've had our fair share of tries not given this year.

Gordon Gekko wrote:That is why the try should have stood. The VR cannot call a tackle held unless the elbow has touched the floor and being as Silverwood had not called held, the try should have stood. If Silverwood had called held he would have just awarded Rovers a penalty for what would effectivelty have been a double movement and would have had no need to use the VR.

I reckon Silverwood only went to the VR to check the grounding, which was clearly ok.

Hutchie wrote:ball carrying elbow i think is the definative rule, that and the tackler has to have a hand on you even if its only a finger tip


think back to dobsons try in the derby after tansey dropped the bomb, cookes wrist touched the floor but not his elbow

nick hkr wrote:I wouldnt say any part of Cooke's arm or hand touched the floor in that motion and I have seen it a few times on telly. I think it was millimeters away from touching but never made contact.

Gordon Gekko wrote:That is why the try should have stood. The VR cannot call a tackle held unless the elbow has touched the floor and being as Silverwood had not called held, the try should have stood. If Silverwood had called held he would have just awarded Rovers a penalty for what would effectivelty have been a double movement and would have had no need to use the VR.

I reckon Silverwood only went to the VR to check the grounding in all honesty.

phil webbo wrote:I've just watched it again, and clear as anything, Silverwood says
"Just check the grounding, I can't see for the posts Steve, the tackle was complete".

So the VR knows the tackle is complete, he checks the video, sees that Highams momentum has stopped, Fitzy droppes of him, then he puts the ball down.
Double movement, No try!

Silverwood screwed up by not calling held, but the VR gave the right decision with the info he had, don't forget he can't hear whats being shouted, only what the ref tells him.