www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480 www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 71975.html Quote Four out of Gillingham-based Medway Dragons, Hemel, Bristol, Coventry, Northampton, Chester and Oxford will go into the Championship 1 in 2013. "Rimmer announced that next year there will be no relegation from the Championship but four clubs will be promoted from Championship One to make way for the newcomers." "Promotion and relegation will continue between the two Championship divisions from 2013."'" They definitely need more teams in the Championship Leagues, hopefully we will get into the Championship.

www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480 www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 71975.html Quote Four out of Gillingham-based Medway Dragons, Hemel, Bristol, Coventry, Northampton, Chester and Oxford will go into the Championship 1 in 2013. "Rimmer announced that next year there will be no relegation from the Championship but four clubs will be promoted from Championship One to make way for the newcomers." "Promotion and relegation will continue between the two Championship divisions from 2013."'" They definitely need more teams in the Championship Leagues, hopefully we will get into the Championship.

Interesting to see how they work the 4 going up ? Hope it is the top 4 subject to meeting minimum standards !

At least promotion & relegation returns for the 2013 season ! However no one will want to be in C1 in 2013.

Well according to the Yorkshire Post its :

League Winners
Grand Final Winners
Grand Final Losers
Next highest placed club in the league.

So if we don’t get promotion next year we might as well shut up shop and die, as we will be stuck in a league of glorified amateurs with zero away support watching a lower standard of rugby than we already are. Also thanks a bunch for blowing the cost of away travel through the roof for the fans.If this was happening in SL this forum would be in meltdown by now, but it’s only CC! so it doesn’t matter. I believe this is a long term plan by the RFL to get rid of what they perceive to be the scrag end clubs in CC1. They will run it for two or three years and then announce that it doesn’t work and everyone left in this division will revert to the amateur game including the current CC1 semi pro clubs!

I agree with what you say mate . Could have been worse at least there is promotion in 2013.

Can you think of another way the RL could have brought new clubs into the structure, having 20 clubs only isnt the way forward.

Are they not missing a trick in not allowing the likes of Bramley, Warrington Wizzards, Underbank and Kippak to step up (if indeed those clubs want to) to keep the "heartland" teams to a decent percentage and perhaps get to the stage where the Conference is the feeder into Championship 1 and teams get there through promotion rather than be parachuted in.

And if we do get promotion next year--will we as fans and the club care about the ones left behind,----sadly i suspect the majority will not.

Yes i would. I do not want to see any of the current CC1 clubs left to rot in such a league. Can you imagine the distances that will be travelled by the likes of Workington?

And neither do i----but should the likes of Hemel, Bristol, Coventry, Northampton, Chester and such not be given a chance.

We can hardly argue against the Super-League becoming a closed shop and then say we want the Championship to adopt the very same thing.

Agree 100% Bruce , with regard Bramley they are strugling this year , rumour has it Warrington Wizzards will relocate to Chester.

What I object to is a team who come 6th could get promotion cos they win the Grand Final. Make it the top 4 & have the play offs for a Trophy & Financial reward as Super League & the Championship.

That’s a fair point, but would it not be better to put them all in a division together where the winner earns the right to play in CC1 rather than dumping a ship load of expansion teams on us all in one go!
Imagine if for SL 2013 it was announced that teams from all these far flung places were to be added to the fixture list.
Why does CC1 have to be the laboratory for all of mad professor RFLs experiments?

It's a crazy idea and won't work.
Eh, but let them do what they want, they will anyway.
They just stick pins in maps of faraway places.
The resulting clubs die on their s. They always have done bar the odd exception .....Catalans.
Is that any reason for them not to try?
Well if they want to ignore history ... let them go ahead.
Basically RL is a localised minority sport and what the hell is going to change that?
Only a shedload of dosh from somebody like Murdoch.

The cost of fuel nowadays is becoming prohibitive and that is one reason why the only away games I went to last year were games when a coach was laid on.
I spend enough on the bloody stuff as it is.
I'd sooner have a day at the coast on a sunny day.

I suppose in an ideal world we could all stop overnight and see the sights to mitigate the boredom of travelling there and back in a day... more expense!

Football fans do it though ... why is that?

All I know is there are no bounds to the desperation of the RFL in spreading this sport and blow the consequences.
And blow fairness.
And blow any club that stands in the way!

I would agree with your views.
This WILL NOT WORK and I fear for the future of any of the current CC1 clubs who are still in this division when the RFL realise this. What we need is more games against the teams we have now and also in the Champoinship. Why not just merge the two leagues we have now? The travelling will be a killer. You might as well watch Moorends or Toll Bar .

To be honest the clubs left behind can probably ride out 2013 in CC1 and surely the teams at most risk are those that make it up next season, probably spend to try to survive and don't then drop into CC1 for 2014 with massivly reduced income and probably debts carried over from the previous two seasons striving to make it out of CC1 in the first place and then trying to make a go of it in CC.

They didn't apply!

Quite a strong rumour that one

I don't understand that one.
What does that mean exactly?

It means what it says.

I'm sorry but it doesn't.
Write down exactly what it means.

You have a winner of the league ... fine
You have a winner of the grand final and a loser from the same final.They are promoted.

Now these clubs have come from teams 2 to 8.
So lets say that the team 2 wins and the team 8 are in the final.
Right they go up.
Now teams 3,4,5,6,7 have been knocked out.
Does team 4 get promoted over team three that got knocked out?
What does the team finishing fourth mean? The team finishing fourth in the league?.

So you can fiddle it to finish fourth and not risk getting knocked out in the play-offs by finishing third?
Or does it mean the team that has done third best in the play-offs?

Is it me??????

I would appreciate some clarification from someone.

Or are you saying that if, say, a team (say the team finishing 2) didn't play in the grand final, they would be considered the fourth best team???

If the 2 clubs who reach the GF are outside the top 4 , the other 2 would be who finished 1st & 2nd.

What??
Two teams, as it stands, outside the top three (never mind four) can't be in the final.

Team 1 = promoted.
Team 2 plays team 3 = winner in final
Loser of that game plays the winner of the rest.
Winner of that game is in the final as well.

Unless there are going to be more teams in the play-off.
Is that what is happening?

Can someone just give me a link to what is going to happen so I can read it please?

The penny has dropped , I assumed the top 2 would be in the playoffs I donot know why ! see www.therfl.co.uk/news

The penny has dropped , I assumed the top 2 would be in the playoffs I donot know why ! see www.therfl.co.uk/news

One of the minimum standards for the Championship is "the club having a three year security of tenure on the ground"

Interesting.

Quote ="weighman"The penny has dropped , I assumed the top 2 would be in the playoffs I donot know why ! see www.therfl.co.uk/news'" I have read that piece and it simply is not made clear what the next highest placed team means. Their wording is too loose, too ambiguous. The next highest placed team after what? Quote “The Championship will be expanded to 14 teams in 2013, meaning that there will be no relegation from the competition in 2012, and four teams will be promoted from Championship One. “These will be the Championship One champions, the play-off final winning team, the play-off final runners up and the next highest placed club in Championship One.'" I am not criticising you weighman , I would just like some clarity. They obviously knew what they meant to say. But they haven't explained it properly with an example.

Quote ="weighman"The penny has dropped , I assumed the top 2 would be in the playoffs I donot know why ! see www.therfl.co.uk/news'" I have read that piece and it simply is not made clear what the next highest placed team means. Their wording is too loose, too ambiguous. The next highest placed team after what? Quote “The Championship will be expanded to 14 teams in 2013, meaning that there will be no relegation from the competition in 2012, and four teams will be promoted from Championship One. “These will be the Championship One champions, the play-off final winning team, the play-off final runners up and the next highest placed club in Championship One.'" I am not criticising you weighman , I would just like some clarity. They obviously knew what they meant to say. But they haven't explained it properly with an example.

After the 1st placed unless they have qualified thro the GF options .