Post subject: Re: C1 Rochdale (Away) - 03/07/11 - Cake Day
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:52 pm
Stand-Offish
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Joined: Feb 18 2006 Posts: 18610 Location: Somewhere in Bonny Donny (Twinned with Krakatoa in 1883).
Reading that match report posted by Jemmo on the MOTM thread, it made me think that we WERE fortunate to beat Rochdale. Rochdale squandered loads of opportunities to score tries. However, I think most of Rochdale's opportunities were down to Doncaster's poor ball retention and bad decision making. I know I am biased, but I thought we were the better squad (not by a lot granted), but from the very off we couldn't hold the ball. The result was intense pressure on us for 15 minutes at the start. But our defence was excellent and Rochdale could have been three tries up thanks to our ineptitude in attack.
We got a break or two with Crisper's tries and from then on the game swung in our favour. We were in charge. But we kept giving them reprieve after reprieve instead of killing the game off, and as a result Rochdale were in it until the final hooter. Yes, I can see why Rochdale thought they should have won that game, only superb tackling and fortune kept them scoreless in the second half.
Ruthlessness is still missing from the Donny game. Crisper and Neverson had more tries in them, but we persisted in trying to get the forwards to score pie-muncher tries. It almost cost us what should have been (once we had established dominance) an easier win.
I think we are close to being ruthless in defence, but not ruthless enough in attack.
The four try burst against Skolars showed what we can do. Identify the weak side and attack it over and over again as long as it is successful. Skolars weak side was their right side and we capitalised that day.
Just my opinion of course.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Post subject: Re: C1 Rochdale (Away) - 03/07/11 - Cake Day
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:00 pm
Jemmo
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One day coaches, supporters and reporters of this division are going to realise we're not a bad side and losing to us is not some hangable disgrace. We're 4th in the league, 1 point off second, with a game in hand over most, having taken points of every team in the division. And if you believed the reports every week they are all flukes
As S-O says our defence was spot on but we were far from perfect in attack, we actually seemed nervous whenever we were just one score away and I am pretty sure if we had have gone 2 scores ahead earlier in the second half we may have gone on to relax and get a few more.
While I agree Rochdale could have won, to say they should have won, based on how the teams performed, is wrong (IMO) as we could and should have sewn the game up well before the end
Post subject: Re: C1 Rochdale (Away) - 03/07/11 - Cake Day
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:17 pm
Stand-Offish
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Joined: Feb 18 2006 Posts: 18610 Location: Somewhere in Bonny Donny (Twinned with Krakatoa in 1883).
Jemmo wrote:One day coaches, supporters and reporters of this division are going to realise we're not a bad side and losing to us is not some hangable disgrace. We're 4th in the league, 1 point off second, with a game in hand over most, having taken points of every team in the division. And if you believed the reports every week they are all flukes
As S-O says our defence was spot on but we were far from perfect in attack, we actually seemed nervous whenever we were just one score away and I am pretty sure if we had have gone 2 scores ahead earlier in the second half we may have gone on to relax and get a few more.
While I agree Rochdale could have won, to say they should have won, based on how the teams performed, is wrong (IMO) as we could and should have sewn the game up well before the end
Agreed ... our dominance in the second half was not reflected in the score ... and although Rochdale should have scored more ... so should we ... a lot more.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Post subject: Re: C1 Rochdale (Away) - 03/07/11 - Cake Day
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:40 pm
Wilf Grimshaw
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Joined: Nov 03 2005 Posts: 4077 Location: Within earshot of the XH558
Not getting into the whys and wherefores (see above ) We should have had ten more points at least. Mr Spaven had an off day (kicking at the posts ) I will say IMO that we deserved that result. Perfectly good try ruled out for a foreward pass that still baffles me and a decent few other overlaps squanded. All in all not bad when you consider that young Potts saw as much ball as a Nun in solitary. I think Jemmo enjoyed Mev Norrisons try at the end.
Post subject: Re: C1 Rochdale (Away) - 03/07/11 - Cake Day
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:06 pm
Wilf Grimshaw
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Joined: Nov 03 2005 Posts: 4077 Location: Within earshot of the XH558
Karlos wrote:I thought we were kept in it as well by a certain try scoring tackle over on the far side.Dont know who pulled it off but it was a cracker.
Chris Spurr I think, was it from that 3 yard foreward pass they chucked out when the linesman stood still to indicate it and then ran after the ref
Post subject: Re: C1 Rochdale (Away) - 03/07/11 - Cake Day
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:16 pm
Karlos
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Moonlight wrote:Chris Spurr I think, was it from that 3 yard foreward pass they chucked out when the linesman stood still to indicate it and then ran after the ref
It may have been I cant remember. Their winger was about 2 yards from the line when he was tackled .It was great stuff.
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