FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Hull FC Realistic targets for 2025



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 137 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 14  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:24 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 25774
Location: Back in Hull.
Lots of talk about recruitment on and off the field, some people happy, some ok and some disappointed, I'm probably in the Ok bracket, was hoping when Myler was announced would be better, but it hasn't quite worked out, not from trying and add in Lam, Whitehead into our side, would change the whole dynamics of the squad. But can see the reasons recruitment hasn't gone exactly as I hoped.

So what are the realistic targets for next year, for me there are three.

Avoid the big defeats on a regular basis, it's been 4 plus years now of regular 50 point defeats, games regularly over after 20 minutes.
Finish the season with some positive results (our August, September results over the last few years speak for themself)
Aim to finish as high as possible, I think a realistic target for this is 9th (above Cas, Wakey and Hudds), not sure with this squad it could be much higher, unless we have some real luck with injuries and Cartwright proves to be a coach who can improve players hugely.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:48 am 
Junior Player
Junior Player

Joined: May 02 2024
Posts: 195
I think anything less than the treble and I won't be happy. Joking!

I think 8th or above! The players that have signed from Aus have only good things to say about Carty. We've seen what Rovers have done just by been a fit squad and keeping their key players on the pitch all year.

Carty said a fit and hungry team, that will win games in it self!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:21 am 
Club Owner
Club Owner
User avatar

Joined: Sep 25 2003
Posts: 22193
Dave K. wrote:Lots of talk about recruitment on and off the field, some people happy, some ok and some disappointed, I'm probably in the Ok bracket, was hoping when Myler was announced would be better, but it hasn't quite worked out, not from trying and add in Lam, Whitehead into our side, would change the whole dynamics of the squad. But can see the reasons recruitment hasn't gone exactly as I hoped.

So what are the realistic targets for next year, for me there are three.

Avoid the big defeats on a regular basis, it's been 4 plus years now of regular 50 point defeats, games regularly over after 20 minutes.
Finish the season with some positive results (our August, September results over the last few years speak for themself)
Aim to finish as high as possible, I think a realistic target for this is 9th (above Cas, Wakey and Hudds), not sure with this squad it could be much higher, unless we have some real luck with injuries and Cartwright proves to be a coach who can improve players hugely.


Agree with all this Dave.

Ninth is a reasonable target. We will not trouble the play offs but the aim is to compete in every game and firm up that defence. Conceding an average of 34 points per game is just not acceptable.

We need to massively improve our fitness and conditioning and it seems like this is Cartwright's immediate priority.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:25 am 
International Board Member
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: Jan 03 2003
Posts: 2227
Location: Leeds
Still being in with a chance of winning games at the 60 minute mark, too many times this year teams have blown us away early doors, then we show a little bit of fight after and maybe get a consolation try or two or tighten our defence up, it'd be nice to still be competing around 60 mins to keep fans interest up!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:36 am 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 22 2007
Posts: 30345
Stop the half assed effort and performances. There have been a few games we have been competitive in and lost which shows it doesn't take much to be there or thereabouts in games. Put the same effort in against london as we did against wire and wigan and we probably win.

Improve fitness, discipline and defence would go a long way for this squad. Attitude and confidence next.

Still some holes in the squad for me at centre, wing (assuming ropana plays fb) 2nd row and prop. We're either at the bare bones in each or relying on kids






The poor man's bonaire

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:40 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 25774
Location: Back in Hull.
Jake the Peg wrote:Stop the half assed effort and performances. There have been a few games we have been competitive in and lost which shows it doesn't take much to be there or thereabouts in games. Put the same effort in against london as we did against wire and wigan and we probably win.

Improve fitness, discipline and defence would go a long way for this squad. Attitude and confidence next.

Still some holes in the squad for me at centre, wing (assuming ropana plays fb) 2nd row and prop. We're either at the bare bones in each or relying on kids


Agree think better coaching and players which we have signed will only get us so far and probably 8th at best, definitely still need some depth and quality in the areas mentioned to challenge the play offs.

Small steps though, we are in a massive mess this season.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:44 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 8178
Location: Never never land away with the fairies
I think realistically to see a structured & cohesive team that fights for each other no matter whether the first or 79th minute. A huge improvement in both fitness & discipline, not just in terms of less penalties conceded but the basics such as our line speed, intensity etc. Also a significant improvement in our all round attitude as a club both on & off the field.

Top 6 for me isn't currently an achievable goal given the dogs dinner we are and the squad assembled so far, however I do think that 8th place should be the minimum requirement.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:49 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 25774
Location: Back in Hull.
Chris71 wrote:I think realistically to see a structured & cohesive team that fights for each other no matter whether the first or 79th minute. A huge improvement in both fitness & discipline, not just in terms of less penalties conceded but the basics such as our line speed, intensity etc. Also a significant improvement in our all round attitude as a club both on & off the field.

Top 6 for me isn't currently an achievable goal given the dogs dinner we are and the squad assembled so far, however I do think that 8th place should be the minimum requirement.


Looking at our squad I just don't see who it could finish above apart from Cas, Hudds and Wakey.

But you never know in sport, particularly if we can get some of the things sorted that have been mentioned, which really should be the basics, such as structure and fitness.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:00 am 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 8178
Location: Never never land away with the fairies
Dave K. wrote:Looking at our squad I just don't see who it could finish above apart from Cas, Hudds and Wakey.

But you never know in sport, particularly if we can get some of the things sorted that have been mentioned, which really should be the basics, such as structure and fitness.


Personally don't think Leeds are all that to be honest so do think Cas, Hudds, Wakey and Leeds are all teams we should realistically be targeting finishing above. Think their current 7th place is more of an indication of just how poor Catalan have been in the latter stages of this season than Leeds being decent.

If we get the fundamental basics right, real structure to our play and big improvement in fitness/conditioning then I do think a target of 8th whilst a big ask is realistic and where we should be aiming the bar.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Realistic targets for 2025
PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:06 am 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 07 2005
Posts: 7393
answer to the title is simple for me; Survival with our super league position intact! Perhaps some wanting amongst the group some passion for the cause and some accountability from the players towards the fans.All of which would be completely new innovations after this season.






2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 137 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 14  Next





It is currently Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:57 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: FC Callum, Homenaway, Majestic-12 [Bot], Marcus's Bicycle, mogg, mwindass, Offy86, pepos, RockNRolla, themightynortherner, Windy winger and 253 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:57 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Leeds away first up
alegend
35
9m
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
22m
Film game
karetaker
5575
29m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40708
30m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63203
31m
Fixtures 2025
MadDogg
56
38m
Out of contract 2025
karetaker
56
57m
Assistant Coach - Langley
ArthurClues
27
Recent
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
7
Recent
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
27
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
4003
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Tarquin Fueg
178
1m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
156
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2587
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MadDogg
7
1m
Film game
karetaker
5575
1m
Out of contract 2025
karetaker
56
2m
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
TODAY
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
7
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
MadDogg
7
TODAY
Leeds away first up
alegend
35
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
ArthurClues
27
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
15
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
206
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
452
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1232
England's Women Demolish The W..
1057
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1294
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1085
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1346
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1889
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2112
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2356
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1929
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2164
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2633
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2058
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2138
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Leeds away first up
alegend
35
9m
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
22m
Film game
karetaker
5575
29m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40708
30m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63203
31m
Fixtures 2025
MadDogg
56
38m
Out of contract 2025
karetaker
56
57m
Assistant Coach - Langley
ArthurClues
27
Recent
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
7
Recent
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
27
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
4003
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Tarquin Fueg
178
1m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
156
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2587
1m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MadDogg
7
1m
Film game
karetaker
5575
1m
Out of contract 2025
karetaker
56
2m
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5572
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Lord Tony Sm
13
TODAY
Fixtures
Trojan Horse
7
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
MadDogg
7
TODAY
Leeds away first up
alegend
35
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
ArthurClues
27
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Wollo-Wollo-
15
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
206
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
452
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1232
England's Women Demolish The W..
1057
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1294
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1085
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1346
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1889
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2112
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2356
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1929
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2164
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2633
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2058
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2138


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.