Some big record defeats coming under Houghtons watch, think its time he stood down as captain. He set the tone for tonight in the opening set with a woeful kick on the 4th tackle, not what you need from your captain in a big game.

Said all along he his not a captain, good player but not a captain, after there tries it was silence behind the sticks, give it to tag

Taylor is the Captain elect and should be from here on in

I don't think it matters who is captain of the current crop of players under the current coaching regime. We have a culture where not putting a shift is accepted throughout the club

I think being leaderless on the park has been a problem. Just having the presence of Ellis makes us winners more than not.

Besides Ellis, I think Westerman would be our best choice as captain.

What a stupid thread , if your a leader , you don’t just say nothing because your not the captain , pathetic

If "Just Enough" Joe is your answer as captain you should look forward to plenty more performances like last night.

"Just enough" sounds better to me than "not at all"

Westy unlike others, got stuck in all night. It’s a simple game, against slick confidence teams, the answer is to smash the fxxk out of them, make them not want the ball, we failed miserably in this department.

Westerman has definitely been one of our best this season. The bar's not been set that high, but still.