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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:34 am 
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Interesting game, one we should be winning pretty easily looking at form of both clubs, I don't see much in the Widnes team to worry about and unless they recruit I think they are nailed on for bottom place.

Talanoa out, so I would personally make that a straight swap for Micheal's, if Ellis is back he replaces Turgut.

Not sure what to do with Connor, do we have him on the bench or give him a go at centre (Griffin on the wing) or play him at Fullback in place of Shaul (Who I thought didn't have as bad a game as some on social media are making out)

Good to have options and the crowd looks like being another healthy one.

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Shaul
Michaels
Griffin
Carlos
Fonua
Kelly
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Bowden
Mini
Manu
Thomo

Washy
Ellis
Green
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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:44 am 
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Dave K. wrote:Interesting game, one we should be winning pretty easily looking at form of both clubs, I don't see much in the Widnes team to worry about and unless they recruit I think they are nailed on for bottom place.

Talanoa out, so I would personally make that a straight swap for Micheal's, if Ellis is back he replaces Turgut.

Not sure what to do with Connor, do we have him on the bench or give him a go at centre (Griffin on the wing) or play him at Fullback in place of Shaul (Who I thought didn't have as bad a game as some on social media are making out)

Good to have options and the crowd looks like being another healthy one.

My side

Shaul
Michaels
Griffin
Carlos
Fonua
Kelly
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Bowden
Mini
Manu
Thomo

Washy
Ellis
Green
Connor


Widnes' biggest problem is Betts

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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:58 am 
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PCollinson1990 wrote:Widnes' biggest problem is Betts


And Rule.

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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:09 am 
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Dave K. wrote:And Rule.


Not sure he has much influence, but who knows.

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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:15 am 
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PCollinson1990 wrote:Not sure he has much influence, but who knows.


He is the CEO, so it will have been his decision to sell their best player, just before the season starts and not replace him.

I don't think Betts is a great coach, but not sure he has been given much help from his board (Be interesting to see a Widnes fans perspective, but their doesn't seem to be many on rlfans these days)

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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:19 am 
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Dave K. wrote:He is the CEO, so it will have been his decision to sell their best player, just before the season starts and not replace him.

I don't think Betts is a great coach, but not sure he has been given much help from his board (Be interesting to see a Widnes fans perspective, but their doesn't seem to be many on rlfans these days)


Probably sold because of finances, did he make major sales of players at FC?

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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:41 am 
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With all due respect to Widnes, they do look like they will struggle this season without Brown. That should not affect they way they defend, but if they go a couple of scores down early (like they did against Cas last weekend) then the flood gates could open. If its tight up until half time, we could be in for a low scoring game.

From our teams point of view.

Michaels in for Talanoa (straight swap).

Ellis to start, Thompson to the Bench in place of Turgut.

Problem selection spot is Full Back. If I were picking the side (which clearly I am not) , I'd give Conner the nod over Shaul. 2 reasons for this. Firstly I'd be telling JS that with the squad we have there is competition for places and that he needs to concentrate on a couple of areas of his game in training. I'd be reassuring him that it would have been easy to drop him after the Hudds game (numerous dropped ball from kick offs / bombs) but that faith was kept and he retained his place. Secondly, and possibly more importantly, I'd want to see Conner having a shot at FB in a relatively low risk game to see how he goes should Shaul be injured or out of the frame in future.

Just my thoughts.






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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:27 pm 
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PCollinson1990 wrote:Probably sold because of finances, did he make major sales of players at FC?


Dont think so, but made a number of errors (Along with Kath), which could have sent us the same way as Bradford, if AP hadn't saved us.

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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:38 pm 
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Connor to the wing. He isn't going to get picked at 6 for a while with Kelly doing well. And Shaul hasn't done enough wrong to be dropped. If Connor has a good game on the wing then that would put pressure on Shaul when Tala comes back.

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 Post subject: Re: Widnes Game
PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:41 pm 
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:Problem selection spot is Full Back. If I were picking the side (which clearly I am not) , I'd give Conner the nod over Shaul. 2 reasons for this. Firstly I'd be telling JS that with the squad we have there is competition for places and that he needs to concentrate on a couple of areas of his game in training. I'd be reassuring him that it would have been easy to drop him after the Hudds game (numerous dropped ball from kick offs / bombs) but that faith was kept and he retained his place. Secondly, and possibly more importantly, I'd want to see Conner having a shot at FB in a relatively low risk game to see how he goes should Shaul be injured or out of the frame in future.

Just my thoughts.


Kind of agree with this. I know you don't change a winning team but no reason not to shuffle the pack a bit in respect of Shaul. Let him have a rest (not "dropped") and see him come back fighting in the future.






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