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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:47 pm 
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Mild mannered Janitor wrote:Really, you need to stop, it's not healthy to be obsessed by something you are clearly not familiar with.

Ok, read this a few times before responding.

The ACCUMULATED loss. The net balance of net profit less net loss since incorporation. Now, like it or not the historic company of Hull FC didn't disappear., it merged with another company( which incidentally also had a 600k loss accumulated in just 12 months) . At that point the historical company had accumulated losses of over £1.5m . This is really not hard to work out. Time passes, some losses are made and a few years of small profits are made. It left the company in 2010 having an accumulated loss of circa £2m.

I got incorrectly accused of googling earlier, never could an ill judged post prove a point of plagerism than yours. LISTEN AND READ CAREFULLY. Internally generated intangibles. Virtually impossible to recognise in the accounts as it's difficult to identify a realisable measurement of value. Hence the auditors qualified their report as it disagreed at the time with both SSAP13 and FRS 11. Hull FC created a reserve (ie a transaction direct to equity, not to p/l) of the valuation of players (under contract under the age of 24). Any movement in that value would have been altered via the reserve which backed it up and never affecting the p/l account.

I stated that it would affect the profit and loss account if he followed the recommendations and removed the valuation of the players as intangible assets. If anything he has increased the valuation after he stated that he was going to reduce the figure.

That, as they say, is tHe final word. Please don't bore the rest of the forum users with a contrary response, you will be wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:47 am 
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[quote="Keith_Lard"][/quote]


That's your best post on here Keith.

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:50 am 
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Dave K. wrote:That's your best post on here Keith.


DAve, I think its this bit Keith still cannot fathom

Quote:I stated that it would affect the profit and loss account if he followed the recommendations and removed the valuation of the players as intangible assets. If anything he has increased the valuation after he stated that he was going to reduce the figure.


I mentioned in my earlier post, you really should stop, its becoming embarrassing for you.

The valuation of the player contracts is, in reality a made up figure and not based on a cash transaction. This made up figure when originally recognised created an asset and a reserve. Any increase or decrease to that figure would affect that reserve and not the p/l.

You are confusing this situation with that of amortisation of intangibles.

You are wrong. Persistently wrong.






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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:16 am 
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Squad confirmed:

Abdull, Bowden, Fonua, Green, Houghton, Lancaster, Logan, Manu, Michaels, Minichiello, Naughton, Palea’aesina, Pritchard, Pryce, Shaul, Smith (trialist), Sneyd, Taylor, Thompson, Tuimavave, Washbrook, Watts.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:50 am 
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ccs wrote:Squad confirmed:

Abdull, Bowden, Fonua, Green, Houghton, Lancaster, Logan, Manu, Michaels, Minichiello, Naughton, Palea’aesina, Pritchard, Pryce, Shaul, Smith (trialist), Sneyd, Taylor, Thompson, Tuimavave, Washbrook, Watts.


Shaul
Michaels
Logan
Tuimavave
Fonua
Pryce
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Watts
Minichiello
Pritchard
Abdull

Bowden
Green
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Washbrook
Manu
Feka
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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:13 pm 
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Wilde 3 wrote:Shaul
Michaels
Logan
Tuimavave
Fonua
Pryce
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Watts
Minichiello
Pritchard
Abdull

Bowden
Green
Lancaster
Washbrook
Manu
Feka
Smith
Thompson


Would swap Manu for Abdull, agree with the rest :)

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:32 pm 
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I'd prefer to see Lancaster start over Michaels and Manu at 13, but happy with the rest.






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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:54 pm 
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Jamie Shaul in the squad, then? :D

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:58 pm 
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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Jamie Shaul in the squad, then? :D

Unbelievable, isn't it - and what's even worse, Kirk Yeaman hasn't been selected.






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

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 Post subject: Re: The Derby
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:17 pm 
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I think he will start Smith either at FB or on the wing, might aswell see what he can do, I'd play him first half on the wing and 2nd at FB.

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