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Got to admit im not a Pearson fan but i feel Radford has improved as a coach and the team certainly plays for him but it is just too dumb at times - whether thats coaching or the quality of the players we dont know as yet but we will do next season with the much improved personnel. This team has to finish 4-6 and get in the top four play offs or only just miss out by a whisker or its another failure and Radford has to go. Ive not had a season pass in years and year on year the number of games i go to diminishes but im still a fan just not much of a supporter anymore though I have thought about buying a season ticket more this year than i have for many years simply because of the improvement in playing personnel thought tbh and because the mrs and two kids go with me and the £500 cost i will choose my games. We start well showing that weve lifted a level and i pay to go to more games. We start poor or show no improvement and i simply wont bother and i feel i wont be the only one who does this so the clubs future is in its own hands imo
Armavinit wrote:Cheers, Wilf. For what it's worth, I think Bonaire, Bumpy and Tinkerman are seriuosly sad people. I'll be renewing both mine and my wife's passes as usual. As us Evertonians say "You're in my heart, you're in my soul" Geuss I'm a sucker for lost causes. Great recruitment and a raft of upcoming young uns to go into the melting pot. COYH.
I think you talk a load of rollocks, you don't even know me, nor would I ever wish you to, your opinion of me and others is based on posting facts and valid opinions that don't meet with your approval.
That in itself makes you and the other on here whom try to impress their opinion as being the only valid ones and use belittling/bullying tactics to shout down anyone daring to have something to say other than what meets their approval pretty pathetic. You couldn't even be bothered to read that I've said on many occasions about how passionate for the club I am, that no matter what i'll always keep coming, that I'm getting a membership next year as well as the FCLive (again), no you spout off on the back of a valid and fact based opinion. So does that quantify me as a 'proper' supporter now or are proper supporters in your eyes only those whom buy a couple of shirts a season pass (& attend all the matches) & go to the FC events, if not, how do you quantify being a supporter of the club? Instead of berating supporters of the club that are rightly angry & frustrated at how we are being run off the field and coached on field why not use your energies in trying to encourage and make a positive case to those whom aren't actually going to matches as to reasons why they should.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:That in itself makes you and the other on here whom try to impress their opinion as being the only valid ones and use belittling/bullying tactics to shout down anyone daring to have something to say other than what meets their approval pretty pathetic.
Funny that, that's just how you come across.
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:I think you talk a load of rollocks, you don't even know me, nor would I ever wish you to, your opinion of me and others is based on posting facts and valid opinions that don't meet with your approval.
You post facts to suit a very transparent agenda and just because you air an opinion, that doesn't make it valid, credible, or even respected.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:That in itself makes you and the other on here whom try to impress their opinion as being the only valid ones and use belittling/bullying tactics to shout down anyone daring to have something to say other than what meets their approval pretty pathetic.
A lot of irony meters just hit dangerous levels with that one
knockersbumpMKII wrote:You couldn't even be bothered to read that I've said on many occasions about how passionate for the club I am, that no matter what i'll always keep coming, that I'm getting a membership next year as well as the FCLive (again), no you spout off on the back of a valid and fact based opinion. So does that quantify me as a 'proper' supporter now or are proper supporters in your eyes only those whom buy a couple of shirts a season pass (& attend all the matches) & go to the FC events, if not, how do you quantify being a supporter of the club?
Armavinit just described you as 'sad'. He didn't mention the word 'proper' in the post you quoted, or that anyone was any less of a supporter than anyone else. Just 'sad'. Probably based on ramblings like the one above, I imagine.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:Instead of berating supporters of the club that are rightly angry & frustrated at how we are being run off the field and coached on field why not use your energies in trying to encourage and make a positive case to those whom aren't actually going to matches as to reasons why they should.
What, like start a childish online petition calling for a man to be sacked from his job?
EVERYBODY is frustrated. I've told you that many times, but you still choose to ignore it. You have this thought in your head that you're unable to get rid of, that some Hull fans are happy with mediocrity. Well, I've not spoke to one, or seen one post on here. WE ALL WANT MORE, WE WANT BETTER COACHING AND BETTER PERFORMANCES.
People rightly take issue with your posts because they're driven by a blind anti-Radford agenda, downright negativity and you say the same thing time and time again, usually in the form of an angry ramble like your last post. You're utterly incaple of seeing any alternative view that people put to you. Stubborn, one-eyed and close-minded - that's what's sad.
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knockersbumpMKII wrote:I think you talk a load of rollocks, you don't even know me, nor would I ever wish you to, your opinion of me and others is based on posting facts and valid opinions that don't meet with your approval.
That in itself makes you and the other on here whom try to impress their opinion as being the only valid ones and use belittling/bullying tactics to shout down anyone daring to have something to say other than what meets their approval pretty pathetic. You couldn't even be bothered to read that I've said on many occasions about how passionate for the club I am, that no matter what i'll always keep coming, that I'm getting a membership next year as well as the FCLive (again), no you spout off on the back of a valid and fact based opinion. So does that quantify me as a 'proper' supporter now or are proper supporters in your eyes only those whom buy a couple of shirts a season pass (& attend all the matches) & go to the FC events, if not, how do you quantify being a supporter of the club? Instead of berating supporters of the club that are rightly angry & frustrated at how we are being run off the field and coached on field why not use your energies in trying to encourage and make a positive case to those whom aren't actually going to matches as to reasons why they should.
I hope that those supporters who love the club rally around it and support it any way they possibly can. After Martin Sadler's tweet this morning I suspect that it's becoming more important than ever. Time to get my passes sorted.
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It's not a blind anti-Radford agenda, there is no 'right' to take objection to my posts and retort in the way you and others do. It's not negativity, it's saying exactly what the problems are because at every single turn, almost every single week the same issues crop up. This thread was about Pearson, everything I said about him was true, the problems he has created by being inept and a tight wad who thought he could fix things on the cheap, this isn't a rant when I've described what are the actualities of those things that effect our/my club. There are so many things wrong with the club right now it's killing it slowly but surely, the fans are drifting away in their droves and yet somehow you think that you have to berate and slap down anyone daring to mention the issues. That in itself says you are accepting of the situation that you don't want others identifying exactly what the problems are on an open forum because it'll expose the club for the shambles it is and that your own opinion just follows that blind optimism and acceptance of how things are. You are part of the cancer at the club, well done!!
knockersbumpMKII wrote:It's not a blind anti-Radford agenda, there is no 'right' to take objection to my posts and retort in the way you and others do.
You do have an anti-Radford agenda. You created a naff online petition to get him sacked.
I have every right to object to the content your posts or anyone else's, as they do mine. It's a open forum as you mention further down. If you're that sensitive, you probably shouldn't bother.
The negative drivel in your posts needs challenging. You can't write such nonsense and expect people to just accept it.
knockersbumpMKII wrote:It's not negativity, it's saying exactly what the problems are because at every single turn, almost every single week the same issues crop up. This thread was about Pearson, everything I said about him was true, the problems he has created by being inept and a tight wad who thought he could fix things on the cheap, this isn't a rant when I've described what are the actualities of those things that effect our/my club.
Also known as "Broken Record Syndrome".
knockersbumpMKII wrote:There are so many things wrong with the club right now it's killing it slowly but surely, the fans are drifting away in their droves and yet somehow you think that you have to berate and slap down anyone daring to mention the issues. That in itself says you are accepting of the situation that you don't want others identifying exactly what the problems are on an open forum because it'll expose the club for the shambles it is and that your own opinion just follows that blind optimism and acceptance of how things are. You are part of the cancer at the club, well done!!
This last paragraph really sums you up and the difficulty you have with your selective posts.
As I've written many times this season (I've even taken to writing it in capital letters to try and drive it home), NOBODY IS HAPPY, WE'RE ALL FRUSTRATED, WE ALL WANT BETTER COACHING, WE ALL WANT BETTER PERFORMANCES, WE ALL WANT BETTER DECISION MAKING FROM THE CLUB. **Apologies to everyone else about the caps, but it simply doesn't get into this guys mind.
I'll point you to earlier in the thread where I voice my discontent, as I did with the SMC fiasco, our transfer policy under Gentle and the academy merger thread. You somehow forget these and think that because I'm challenging you, that I have my head in the sand. Go and have a read through.
Twice in this thread alone, you've read something, misunderstood and then ranted about something else. I've corrected you on both. The first time where someone stated they thought Radford was a good defensive coach and didn't compare him to anyone, and you rattled off a load of stats vs Gentle to try and shoot him down. Secondly, when you were referred to as 'sad', and you felt the need to write an essay on how good a fan you are. Misunderstanding things is a second nature to you it seems.
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