Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:15 pm
Mr. Zucchini Head
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 08 2006 Posts: 12099
IR80 wrote:if it sits well with your conscience to save a sports club rather than someone struggling to buy food, fair enough.
What a ridiculous arguement. I assume that you have never spent any money on a luxury in your life? You just give all of your disposable income to the homeless? What a top guy.
What people spend their money on is nobodies business but their own.
For a lot of people the club is a huge part of their life and their community. If Hull FC ceased to exist I know that it would leave a huge hole in my life, and there are people for whom it plays a much bigger part than for me. Some people out there practically live for the club and would be totally lost without it. If the club was about to go under and needed saving then that would qualify as a worthy cause imo.
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:20 pm
IR80
Club Captain
Joined: Jun 24 2019 Posts: 2215
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:What a ridiculous arguement. I assume that you have never spent any money on a luxury in your life? You just give all of your disposable income to the homeless? What a top guy.
What people spend their money on is nobodies business but their own.
For a lot of people the club is a huge part of their life and their community. If Hull FC ceased to exist I know that it would leave a huge hole in my life, and there are people for whom it plays a much bigger part than for me. Some people out there practically live for the club and would be totally lost without it. If the club was about to go under and needed saving then that would qualify as a worthy cause imo.
For clarity, said [i]personally] if FC mean that much to you then do as you please.
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:40 pm
Chris71
Moderator
Joined: Jan 30 2004 Posts: 8195 Location: Never never land away with the fairies
IR80 wrote:
Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:What a ridiculous arguement. I assume that you have never spent any money on a luxury in your life? You just give all of your disposable income to the homeless? What a top guy.
What people spend their money on is nobodies business but their own.
For a lot of people the club is a huge part of their life and their community. If Hull FC ceased to exist I know that it would leave a huge hole in my life, and there are people for whom it plays a much bigger part than for me. Some people out there practically live for the club and would be totally lost without it. If the club was about to go under and needed saving then that would qualify as a worthy cause imo.
For clarity, said [i]personally] if FC mean that much to you then do as you please.
Without getting in too deep on this debate its not quite as simple as just saving a sporting club, staff at Hull FC are just as vulnerable to the possibility of being laid off, shorter hours etc and still have to pay bills, get shopping etc also the knock on affect from small businesses that rely on an income stream be it on match day or through the season from both rugby clubs is not to be sniffed at either. We are all facing some testing times not just locally or nationally but globally. My personal take is to a certain extent this Corona virus is getting blown out of proportion and creating hysteria in part due to the different ways it is being handled globally, some misleading media coverage and pretty much no one having any real solid knowledge on the virus. For many people the clubs they support be it Hull, Rovers, Hunslet, Batley or workington town etc play an important role within their communities and are to some, a lifeline.
I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:00 pm
IR80
Club Captain
Joined: Jun 24 2019 Posts: 2215
Chris71 wrote:Without getting in too deep on this debate its not quite as simple as just saving a sporting club, staff at Hull FC are just as vulnerable to the possibility of being laid off, shorter hours etc and still have to pay bills, get shopping etc also the knock on affect from small businesses that rely on an income stream be it on match day or through the season from both rugby clubs is not to be sniffed at either. We are all facing some testing times not just locally or nationally but globally. My personal take is to a certain extent this Corona virus is getting blown out of proportion and creating hysteria in part due to the different ways it is being handled globally, some misleading media coverage and pretty much no one having any real solid knowledge on the virus. For many people the clubs they support be it Hull, Rovers, Hunslet, Batley or workington town etc play an important role within their communities and are to some, a lifeline.
100% this, what is going on (wether we believe it is being hyped) it totally transcends a sports club.All I hope is that we all come through it, and are arguing about an onside/offside in FC winning the Challenge Cup later in the season. RL is a hobby, the fact it has become romantic is a sad indication. life will go on, with, or without, Rugby League.
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:02 pm
Offy1865
Club Captain
Joined: Feb 05 2020 Posts: 91
Couldn't we simply, continue the season as soon as the restrictions have been lifted? That way, there is no debate of who wins trophies etc
And when it comes to.the rugby league clubs, they'll end up regaining some of the lost revenue? Ok the clubs will lose out on some of the money, but maybe, because supports have been cancelled for a period of time more fans will.come out and cut the losses down.
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:04 pm
Armavinit
International Star
Joined: May 24 2011 Posts: 2466
Chris71 wrote:Without getting in too deep on this debate its not quite as simple as just saving a sporting club, staff at Hull FC are just as vulnerable to the possibility of being laid off, shorter hours etc and still have to pay bills, get shopping etc also the knock on affect from small businesses that rely on an income stream be it on match day or through the season from both rugby clubs is not to be sniffed at either. We are all facing some testing times not just locally or nationally but globally. My personal take is to a certain extent this Corona virus is getting blown out of proportion and creating hysteria in part due to the different ways it is being handled globally, some misleading media coverage and pretty much no one having any real solid knowledge on the virus. For many people the clubs they support be it Hull, Rovers, Hunslet, Batley or workington town etc play an important role within their communities and are to some, a lifeline.
As for Covid19 getting blown out of proportion, when the government state they want to keep the death toll below 20,000, I think you’d best start taking it serious. Alot of us are at the wrong end of our lives and have underlying problems
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:10 pm
Bombed Out
International Star
Joined: Feb 21 2012 Posts: 1420
Armavinit wrote:As for Covid19 getting blown out of proportion, when the government state they want to keep the death toll below 20,000, I think you’d best start taking it serious. Alot of us are at the wrong end of our lives and have underlying problems
Yet annually on average 17,000 die from flu and that does not get reported on. Not saying covid 19 isn't a very real threat as it's a new illnesses but the over hyped way it's being reported in the media only continues to fuel the hysteria.
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:29 pm
IR80
Club Captain
Joined: Jun 24 2019 Posts: 2215
Bombed Out wrote:Yet annually on average 17,000 die from flu and that does not get reported on. Not saying covid 19 isn't a very real threat as it's a new illnesses but the over hyped way it's being reported in the media only continues to fuel the hysteria.
And, as someone discussed with me today, ebola probably killed many more, but it was in Africa, hardly impacted Europe, no real figures reported, no daily updates from 10 Downing Street. Covid-19 has hit Europe and it is mass panic. 5 people in East Yorkshire (at the time of posting) have tested positive, FIVE, out of almost 450,000 people. 5 too many, yes, but there will be 100 times more suffering with pneumonia and associated complications.
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:39 pm
ComeOnYouUll
Club Owner
Joined: Sep 25 2003 Posts: 22209
IR80 wrote:And, as someone discussed with me today, ebola probably killed many more, but it was in Africa, hardly impacted Europe, no real figures reported, no daily updates from 10 Downing Street. Covid-19 has hit Europe and it is mass panic. 5 people in East Yorkshire (at the time of posting) have tested positive, FIVE, out of almost 450,000 people. 5 too many, yes, wash your hands, throw tissues away, basic hygiene.
Tested being the operative word. The confirmed number of positive tests in the UK as of 9am today is 1,950 however the actual figure of people who have the virus is estimated to be up to 50,000.
Post subject: Re: SL postponement meeting & financial jeopardy
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:46 pm
IR80
Club Captain
Joined: Jun 24 2019 Posts: 2215
ComeOnYouUll wrote:Tested being the operative word. The confirmed number of positive tests in the UK as of 9am today is 1,950 however the actual figure of people who have the virus is estimated to be up to 50,000.
50,000 out if 70 million.....(estimated, possibly, potentially...)
this isn't an "argument" anyone can win, I hope the final figures are way below what anyone fears, I look forward to a day when we can discuss more mundane things, it is here, we all need to deal with it as best we can.
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