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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:29 pm 
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A unknown superstar wrote:I'm a fairly big fan of Thompson in all honesty, his attacking style is big factor in this. A big-ish player with good speed and a wicked step with an eye for a gap. When he's on form he can be freakishly good in my opinion. Yes defence isn't as good as Hadley, but don't think Hadley offers anything in attack. Plus JT can play anywhere in the pack barring hooker and cover centre if need be.
Good option to have off the bench.


I like him too, and I think whoever Radford goes for will do a good job. I guess Washy is guaranteed a bench spot due to Radford's public backing of his utility value, so I guess there will only be room for one of them, along with one of Pritchard, Manu or Mini and a prop on the bench.

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Faithful One wrote:I like him too, and I think whoever Radford goes for will do a good job. I guess Washy is guaranteed a bench spot due to Radford's public backing of his utility value, so I guess there will only be room for one of them, along with one of Pritchard, Manu or Mini and a prop on the bench.


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Talanoa
Yeaman
Fonua
Naughton
Pryce
Sneyd
Watts
Houghton
Bowden
Pritchard
Manu
Washbrook/Thompson

Green
Taylor
Minichiello
Thompson/Washbrook

That would be my team. How's Tuimavave coming along, any news when he'll be back?






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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:52 pm 
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A unknown superstar wrote:Shaul
Talanoa
Yeaman
Fonua
Naughton
Pryce
Sneyd
Watts
Houghton
Bowden
Pritchard
Manu
Washbrook/Thompson

Green
Taylor
Minichiello
Thompson/Washbrook

That would be my team. How's Tuimavave coming along, any news when he'll be back?


Id start taylor and have bowden at 13, also start mini, and have the tank on the bench for the start of this one

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:27 pm 
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Kosh wrote:Where's he done that?

An EGP is not an admission of guilt BTW.


An early guilty plea is not an admission of guilt? I'm honestly intrigued by your answer! How so?






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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:31 pm 
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A unknown superstar wrote:Shaul
Talanoa
Yeaman
Fonua
Naughton
Pryce
Sneyd
Watts
Houghton
Bowden
Pritchard
Manu
Washbrook/Thompson

Green
Taylor
Minichiello
Thompson/Washbrook

That would be my team. How's Tuimavave coming along, any news when he'll be back?


Have a feeling Naughton will miss out and Steve Michaels back in

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:36 am 
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Bal wrote:An early guilty plea is not an admission of guilt? I'm honestly intrigued by your answer! How so?

You're not genuinely that naive are you? :shock:

An EGP is used to ensure the minimum punishment rather than rely on the vagaries of a bent/incompetent disciplinary panel. All teams use them this way. A player's guilt or innocence has little to no bearing on the punishment he will receive so teams essentially opt out of the process by using the EGP.






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Kosh wrote:You're not genuinely that naive are you? :shock:

An EGP is used to ensure the minimum punishment rather than rely on the vagaries of a bent/incompetent disciplinary panel. All teams use them this way. A player's guilt or innocence has little to no bearing on the punishment he will receive so teams essentially opt out of the process by using the EGP.


early GUILTY plea...clue in the name.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:43 am 
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EASTCOASTFC2016 wrote:early GUILTY plea...clue in the name.

You've obviously been fortunate enough not to off sampled this countries justice system. People plead guilty everyday to offences, not because their guilty. But to safe a lot of hassle and money, complete joke, innocent until proven guilty no longer applies. Ellis maybe guilty, but the EGP is just the easy option, regardless if hull or ellis think innocent or not

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Kosh wrote:You're not genuinely that naive are you? :shock:

An EGP is used to ensure the minimum punishment rather than rely on the vagaries of a bent/incompetent disciplinary panel. All teams use them this way. A player's guilt or innocence has little to no bearing on the punishment he will receive so teams essentially opt out of the process by using the EGP.


You've got to be the most condescending person I've ever come across on a forum :lol: it's a shame.

Anyway. A EGP is, factually an admission a guilt. I take your point they are used strategically by players, although I would argue that many players each week do argue their case as well. Given the Catalans game is so critically, even if you want to play guess the motive, I'd argue that Ellis knew that there was enough in it for a Grade B careless (keyword) contact to the head and admitted as much to minimise the penalty, if he had felt that there is no way it can be classified as that then he would have argued it, as he has in the past in fact.






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