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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:58 am 
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Taylor
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Manu
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Is what I reckon will start.

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I just don't see Abdull starting at 13. The way we play with Sneyd and Pryce didn't work with Westerman, why would it work with Abdull? Much more likely that Manu will play at LF.

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*1865* wrote:I just don't see Abdull starting at 13. The way we play with Sneyd and Pryce didn't work with Westerman, why would it work with Abdull? Much more likely that Manu will play at LF.

Because Abdul can pass a ball, break tackle , and can make things happen. And wont have to hard behind the bs excuses of not been able to play as a 3rd pivot blah blah shittee. Depends what Radford wants from his 13 , a playmaker or another prop, which I don't mind as long as he can bust a tackle and as a decent off load

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Tinkerman23 wrote:Because Abdul can pass a ball, break tackle , and can make things happen. And wont have to hard behind the bs excuses of not been able to play as a 3rd pivot blah blah shittee. Depends what Radford wants from his 13 , a playmaker or another prop, which I don't mind as long as he can bust a tackle and as a decent off load


And without the ball?

Abdull's missed tackles came to 39, which was 12% of the tackles he attempted, he missed.

Some other possibilities for loose man came in at:
Whiting: 7%
Ellis: 6%
Thompson: 9%
Hadley: 4%
Green: 6%
Westerman was at just 6%.

Whilst the jobs of a 13 & 6 with the ball in the oppositions 3rd can be very similar, which Abdull more than has the skillset for, the job of a 13 without the ball (a huge defensive effort down the middle) and with the ball in own half (making yards) is massively different to the job of a 6.

Adbull just isn't ready for playing long minutes and game after game at 13. He might be spelled there, more than likely in games we're on top, but for me he's an out and out 6, and doesn't play like a forward at all. Maybe this will change in the future, but not by 2016. People think because he's a big lad, that he should be a forward, but it doesn't work like that






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Armavinit wrote:There you go again bulling us up, getting really exciting when Dobbins think we're as good as 2006, you Bantersaurus Rex you.


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*1865* wrote:I just don't see Abdull starting at 13. The way we play with Sneyd and Pryce didn't work with Westerman, why would it work with Abdull? Much more likely that Manu will play at LF.


Dean Hadley will start at 13

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The back line is an unknown quantity at the moment, particularly Tuimavave and Fonua.

I'd go with...

8. Watts
9. Houghton
10. Taylor
11. Ellis
12. Mini
13. Manu

I would like to see a strong pack to start games, get us on the front foot.

Bench could be Washbrook, Abdul, Pritchard, Bowden/Green.

Given they probably won't provide cover at 2nd row or Prop, is a bench with Washy & Abdul too lightweight???

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bonaire wrote:Dean Hadley will start at 13


I wouldn't be against him playing there at all looking at his defensive record, and I think he's getting better in attack too. Not a ball handler by ay means, but how many SL sides do play a ball handler at 13 these days? We've been spoilt by Knocker and Jason Smith, and to a lesser extent Westy, and I think we as a group of fans subconsciously expect one.

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Fonua
Tuimavave
Logan
Talanoa
Pryce
Sneyd
Watts
Houghton
Ellis
Mini
Pritchard
Hadley

Manu
Taylor
Abdull
Bowden

Wouldn't be a bad team at all.






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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:And without the ball?

Abdull's missed tackles came to 39, which was 12% of the tackles he attempted, he missed.

Some other possibilities for loose man came in at:
Whiting: 7%
Ellis: 6%
Thompson: 9%
Hadley: 4%
Green: 6%
Westerman was at just 6%.

Whilst the jobs of a 13 & 6 with the ball in the oppositions 3rd can be very similar, which Abdull more than has the skillset for, the job of a 13 without the ball (a huge defensive effort down the middle) and with the ball in own half (making yards) is massively different to the job of a 6.

Adbull just isn't ready for playing long minutes and game after game at 13. He might be spelled there, more than likely in games we're on top, but for me he's an out and out 6, and doesn't play like a forward at all. Maybe this will change in the future, but not by 2016. People think because he's a big lad, that he should be a forward, but it doesn't work like that

Most them players you mention would have higher missed tackle % if defending at 6. Our defence is not that much of a concern, I want to see a starting line up that's positive, and I think Radford will certainly start the season that way, with Abdul at 13. If its doesn't work, I can see 10 forwards in the starting 13. And Ive just realised where easthull fc went

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abdul is nowhere near fit or physically strong enough to play 13 for long minutes. I can't see where we can use him effectively tbh as he's a waste of a bench spot and puts too much pressure on the rest of the forwards to do long stints for me. He either stats at 6 or isn't in the 17 IMO






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