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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:49 pm 
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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:As bad as we are I can't see us losing to Salford. If you have to ask for a postponement things are obviously in dire straights. I'm more concerned that a win will bring about all the "we've turned the corner," articles and will buy Radford yet more time.

I could never actively want us to lose a game, but I am pretty indifferent about this result. Even if we win I just don't see how we are good enough to make the 8. A loss might be a good thing in the long run.



If that result came in at 9:50pm , I think that would be it for Radford regardless of Pearson's backing . I think & hope he'd walk.

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 Post subject: Re: It's the players' fault, not the coach
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In my 37 years of supporting the club there have only really been 4 terrible coaches IMO, casey, walsh, agar and radford. I will probably carry on going to games this season as I've bought my pass but if radford is in charge next season then I won't buy another one until he is gone






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Jake the Peg wrote:In my 37 years of supporting the club there have only really been 4 terrible coaches IMO, casey, walsh, agar and radford. I will probably carry on going to games this season as I've bought my pass but if radford is in charge next season then I won't buy another one until he is gone


Tony Gordon wasn't much good either

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paintman wrote:Tony Gordon wasn't much good either

True but not in the terrible class IMO






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Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:As bad as we are I can't see us losing to Salford. If you have to ask for a postponement things are obviously in dire straights. I'm more concerned that a win will bring about all the "we've turned the corner," articles and will buy Radford yet more time.

I could never actively want us to lose a game, but I am pretty indifferent about this result. Even if we win I just don't see how we are good enough to make the 8. A loss might be a good thing in the long run.


I'm much the same. Thankfully attending is not an issue for me. Work dictates on that score.

The big issue we have on Friday is that because of the bleating by Salford we are on a hiding to nothing. Win like Castleford last week and it's a moral victory for Salford and will heap tons more pressure on AP and Radford. Get a massively convincing win and it will be seen as an expected result and noting to write home about. Lose and we will officially be THE laughing stock of the league.
It doesn't matter how many we have out, Salford have played their ace card and are massive underdogs. We simply can't win.
The other issue will be player complacency. To my mind one of our biggest issues over the past 9 years.
If the team think they've won before crossing the line we will be in for a torrid night.
It's really not going to be pretty, especially with a crowd of 8000 at best.






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Diablo1967 wrote:For me, the Derby game showed what Radford is about.

If you cannot get a team fired up for a derby game, when we had at least 6 Hull born players, then you really are poor. There was no passion in that game at all, proven by the fact that normally, you see at least 2 or 3 fights, or an all-in battle. There were none.

Gentle knew and understood the passion and how the crowd react to fiery temperaments, the odd high-shot etc. The team then feed on it.

So Radford "works hard"? What about his ability, which is sadly absent.

That makes depressing reading for me and will do nothing to erode fans' skepticism.


Only just started reading this thread and a myth about how good Gentle was needs to be put straight . I used to speak to him on the golf course on occasion and one thing he confessed to me was he didn't know how to fire the team up against Rovers. To me he never came over as a confident guy who was in full control of things. I was told other stuff that I can't substantiate to back that up. I for one agreed that both him and bomber should go.
Particularly after sitting through yet another Wembley disappoint.
Now I'm afraid history is repeating it self with Radford. After being a supporter for 63 years I am now not looking forward to going to matches any more and very concerned about what is happening to our team and standing in the game. We are a joke

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I don't disagree that gentle wasn't good enough and had to go but pearson then had to appoint a coach he KNEW was better, not one he thought might be. The damage done will take years to work through at best and could put our future at risk at worst






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 Post subject: Re: It's the players' fault, not the coach
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Im a passholder, and this has made me think radfords here for the long run, thats me not going tomorrow night, rather be bored to death at home

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westjba wrote:Im a passholder, and this has made me think radfords here for the long run, thats me not going tomorrow night, rather be bored to death at home


Agree, had a choice to make,which is more enjoyable.

Creosoting the shed, or watching FC... decided to get the shed done.

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Just heard radford on sportstalk. Sounds very relaxed so I can't imagine he's under any immediate threat of being binned






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