The Dentist Wilf wrote:I try really hard to shy away from getting involved in all this after game stuff because at present all I feel is, for want of a better word blo*dy heartbroken! for the last 3 seasons we have got progressively worse and that is a trend that shows no sign of being reversed.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but I really do have to question what games some people go to. There was so much wrong with our performance and at times our demeanour towards Castleford last night which just confirms that already this season we are cruising to disaster and will I think, struggle to avoid the drop, but the one bright spot last night after the amazing turn out of FC fans had to be the work and graft and the yardage our forwards made. I haven't got the stats yet but I bet we made a lot more than Cas did.
The stats show our forwards did better then the Cas pack and there were some good performances.I still cannot understand why people knock Westerman ? clearly last night he was not right and received treatment almost every break in the game.I have to agree despite all the effort shown we lacked in so many ways. For me the players are in fear of losing,we panic lose composure really quick.We are near yet so far away and I dont think it takes a lot to put it right and surely Radford and the players know what is not going right,I know many hate Radford but if every man and his dog cans see whats going wrong then radford and many of the experienced players know as well so why is it not getting fixed? With all the calls for Pearson out i think the future of our great Club is in danger.If i was Pearson reading these what are IMO way out of order comments I would be off,it has cost him money and with no chance of him getting it back I would cut my losses and say...BYE. There are not many out there who take it on what with Allams crusade to get shut of FC gathering pace.We should be careful what you wish for.
Joined: Jan 11 2005 Posts: 3916 Location: West Hull
Jake the Peg wrote:It's not an exact science but we made 1394m from 196 carries for an average gain of 7.2m and cas made 1262m from 176 carries for an avergae gain of 7.2m.
According to our Head Coach, "if we dont make the metres we wont score.." but we did last night, and still didnt look like scoring.
Then vs Wigan:
"We scored 3 try's from 5 sets, when in Wigan's half.,so I'm happy with those stats" - even one was from a dropped kick..
Joined: Jan 11 2005 Posts: 3916 Location: West Hull
Dave K. wrote:Easiest way would be to bring in a director of rugby, be in Smith, Noble or Sheens, would mean Pearson wouldn't have to sack Radford and would have some help. I honestly believe bringing this type of experienced coach in to help will improve us 10/20% and see us start to win some of these close games.
This would be the scenario for Pearson to 'save face'
I'd go further than 10/20%, I'd go 100%.. not much to fix. just better execution in attack, perfectly fixable...
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hokeydokey wrote:The stats show our forwards did better then the Cas pack and there were some good performances.I still cannot understand why people knock Westerman ? clearly last night he was not right and received treatment almost every break in the game.I have to agree despite all the effort shown we lacked in so many ways. For me the players are in fear of losing,we panic lose composure really quick.We are near yet so far away and I dont think it takes a lot to put it right and surely Radford and the players know what is not going right,I know many hate Radford but if every man and his dog cans see whats going wrong then radford and many of the experienced players know as well so why is it not getting fixed? With all the calls for Pearson out i think the future of our great Club is in danger.If i was Pearson reading these what are IMO way out of order comments I would be off,it has cost him money and with no chance of him getting it back I would cut my losses and say...BYE. There are not many out there who take it on what with Allams crusade to get shut of FC gathering pace.We should be careful what you wish for.
If Westermans wasn't fit he shouldn't have played.
Joined: Oct 19 2003 Posts: 17898 Location: Packed like sardines, in a tin
Dave K. wrote:If Westermans wasn't fit he shouldn't have played.
As has been said, he had a Thackray/Fozzard size bandage on his leg, so clearly wasn't right. More concerning for me is that he's almost playing as a third prop, driving it in and then playing the ball. With 13 on his back I expect a lot more from him
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Chris28 wrote:As has been said, he had a Thackray/Fozzard size bandage on his leg, so clearly wasn't right. More concerning for me is that he's almost playing as a third prop, driving it in and then playing the ball. With 13 on his back I expect a lot more from him
It does seem strange that after his best year for us playing a role more suited to him and him getting picked for England, we've decided to go back to what didn't get the best out of him before.
Joined: Jul 15 2005 Posts: 29816 Location: West Yorkshire
carl_spackler wrote:It does seem strange that after his best year for us playing a role more suited to him and him getting picked for England, we've decided to go back to what didn't get the best out of him before.
Chris28 wrote:As has been said, he had a Thackray/Fozzard size bandage on his leg, so clearly wasn't right. More concerning for me is that he's almost playing as a third prop, driving it in and then playing the ball. With 13 on his back I expect a lot more from him
Playing unfit players is a recipe for disaster, especially when it's just a regular league game surely a player from the youth team could have stepped up to play 13, or even just play a 3rd prop.
Joined: Oct 19 2003 Posts: 17898 Location: Packed like sardines, in a tin
carl_spackler wrote:It does seem strange that after his best year for us playing a role more suited to him and him getting picked for England, we've decided to go back to what didn't get the best out of him before.
Joined: Mar 11 2007 Posts: 5659 Location: Next to Ramsgate Sands c.1850 in West Hull
Chris28 wrote:As has been said, he had a Thackray/Fozzard size bandage on his leg, so clearly wasn't right. More concerning for me is that he's almost playing as a third prop, driving it in and then playing the ball. With 13 on his back I expect a lot more from him
It's like winding back 2 seasons, that. And exactly the mantle Westerman had thought he'd cast off after Gentle left.
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