How much weight do you think he has lost?

I arent sure of exact weights but I have seen him quite a bit recently and although he looks very physically fit/in shape he doesnt seem to have the bulk of others or of what he used to have. l do think he will struggle to win us yardage but then again unless Sam Moa is a monster then I think we will struggle in this department anyway.

Not that I want to be negative in any way shape or form I just think we will have to utilise other strengths !

He might surprise us if he's loas a few pounds, especially if it's a result of some lifestyle changes.

I think we are going to struggle for a battering ram next season, we'll have to play much smarter rugby to win games.

We're doomed.

That is what concerns me too!

Jamie Thackray isn't exactly massive is he but, he runs at pace with agression and punches holes and breaks tackles. You don't have to be huge to make good impact, just run with a purpose.

Thackray quite often makes more then one point of impact during a single carry, he hits the line, backs off and then goes again. Hopefully Berrigan, Thorman and Horne will benefit on the back of his runs.

quite surprised people would rather have 2 props and 2 back rowers on the bench instead of houghton.

Its not a case of 'rather than Houghton' its a case of playing to the strengths of the team and the fact that Berro benefits from playing 80 mins at hooker.

Exactly we need Berro playing the full 80 mins so he can influence the game more.