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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 8:46 am 
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I would say that Fonua was a better centre than any we currently have at the club. He was absolute box office during his time here. The fact that he was a dream team centre and winger would seem to back that up. Loved the big guy in black and white and I'd make him a marquee to come back.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:25 am 
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Since we signed MDJ I've been wondering about wingers. I assume that Graham and Sanderson are not considered SL quality if we are looking to strengthen that position again.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:34 am 
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Dave K. wrote:There is no way we should be paying marquee money for Fonua. He's a very good player, but also has too many errors and not good enough defensively to pay him that sort of money. We have 3 quality centres, so we would be paying marquee money on a winger.


People have an over egged the legend over time ... he's somehow become better over time
I loved him,his personality was great and he could excite you

But he could ruin you as well,knock the ball on simply playing it,or a tackle 1 offload in your ten


For an example of how he's been exaggerated
2017 Fonua vs 2018 Faraimo

Fonua..
Tries-11
Tackle busts-72
Metres a carry-8.37
Clean breaks-17
Errors-37
Pens-14
Missed tackles-36

Faraimo
Tries-17
Tackle busts-115
Metres a carry-8.41
Clean breaks-27
Errors-27
Pens-6
missed tackles-40

one played in a 3rd placed minutes away for GF and challenge cup winning team
Other played in an injury ravaged 8 placed team that finished 11 defeats in a row

Yet 1 should be a cheap option and the other should be marquee...saaaay whaaaaat






"never looking back,always looking forward"

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:54 am 
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airliebird,runninglate! wrote:People have an over egged the legend over time ... he's somehow become better over time
I loved him,his personality was great and he could excite you

But he could ruin you as well,knock the ball on simply playing it,or a tackle 1 offload in your ten


For an example of how he's been exaggerated
2017 Fonua vs 2018 Faraimo

Fonua..
Tries-11
Tackle busts-72
Metres a carry-8.37
Clean breaks-17
Errors-37
Pens-14
Missed tackles-36

Faraimo
Tries-17
Tackle busts-115
Metres a carry-8.41
Clean breaks-27
Errors-27
Pens-6
missed tackles-40

one played in a 3rd placed minutes away for GF and challenge cup winning team
Other played in an injury ravaged 8 placed team that finished 11 defeats in a row

Yet 1 should be a cheap option and the other should be marquee...saaaay whaaaaat


There are lies, there are damn lies, then there are statistics. :)

“Mark Twain”


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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:58 am 
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airliebird,runninglate! wrote:People have an over egged the legend over time ... he's somehow become better over time
I loved him,his personality was great and he could excite you

But he could ruin you as well,knock the ball on simply playing it,or a tackle 1 offload in your ten


For an example of how he's been exaggerated
2017 Fonua vs 2018 Faraimo

Fonua..
Tries-11
Tackle busts-72
Metres a carry-8.37
Clean breaks-17
Errors-37
Pens-14
Missed tackles-36

Faraimo
Tries-17
Tackle busts-115
Metres a carry-8.41
Clean breaks-27
Errors-27
Pens-6
missed tackles-40

one played in a 3rd placed minutes away for GF and challenge cup winning team
Other played in an injury ravaged 8 placed team that finished 11 defeats in a row

Yet 1 should be a cheap option and the other should be marquee...saaaay whaaaaat



And that's it a much worst side.

I really like Fonua, preferred him on the wing, I'd have both Carlos and Connor over him at centre. If we could sign him I'd be overjoyed, but has to be the right price, which I doubt we would get him for now.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:56 am 
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airliebird,runninglate! wrote:People have an over egged the legend over time ... he's somehow become better over time
I loved him,his personality was great and he could excite you

But he could ruin you as well,knock the ball on simply playing it,or a tackle 1 offload in your ten


For an example of how he's been exaggerated
2017 Fonua vs 2018 Faraimo

Fonua..
Tries-11
Tackle busts-72
Metres a carry-8.37
Clean breaks-17
Errors-37
Pens-14
Missed tackles-36

Faraimo
Tries-17
Tackle busts-115
Metres a carry-8.41
Clean breaks-27
Errors-27
Pens-6
missed tackles-40

one played in a 3rd placed minutes away for GF and challenge cup winning team
Other played in an injury ravaged 8 placed team that finished 11 defeats in a row

Yet 1 should be a cheap option and the other should be marquee...saaaay whaaaaat


I like Bureta, but Mahe was a matchwinner, whereas Bureta is solid.






The words of fools mean nothing to one who resides in the truth.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:52 pm 
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Fonua was good, but not marquee good.
Rocks and diamonds a lot of the time. Nearly lost his place for the 2017 final, but than had a big effect on the game.

Would love to see him back, but not at any cost.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:05 pm 
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If westerman does go Iam scratching my head who would play loose forward. No actual ball playing replacements in squad. Kelly a possibility or do we play with the extra forward

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:44 pm 
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Hbomb82 wrote:If westerman does go Iam scratching my head who would play loose forward. No actual ball playing replacements in squad. Kelly a possibility or do we play with the extra forward

Savelio.

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 Post subject: Re: Recruitment 2020
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:51 pm 
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Alex Mellor for Saints or Rovers,

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