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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:24 pm 
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Oafy wrote:Well before the investment came and you know this,
The Covid loans have changed everything some can pay some can’t

Calm down

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:28 pm 
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We're a way off rock bottom yet folks. Based on our 2024 recruitment ins v outs we're in a Super League death spiral.

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:39 pm 
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I blame Radford.

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 5:10 pm 
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WIZEB wrote:I blame Radford.

#backtobacktrophies

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 5:45 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:#backtobacktrophies


Yes, it was awful challenging at least for Grand Finals and winning Wembley finals.
Anyways, Tony Smiths gonna sort it according to most on here so we've got absolutely nothing to worry about. :D

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:05 pm 
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Feels like the club is on life support at the moment, one more bad move and things could turn really critical. I have never felt so apathetic watching the club as yesterday, even in the 90s when the rugby was poor we had an excuse becuase the team were absolutely broke, as in not paying wages on time broke...6 years now of watching overpaid, overhyped players.

As I said earlier in the thread its one more pass from me, and after that im picking and choosing games if the entertainment level doesnt increase. Waste of time getting 'free' games on a pass if they are dead rubber loop games where the team cant be bothered.

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:28 pm 
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I Still Have Faith has just won the 3-00 at Doncaster.
Call it being a sucker for punishment?
Call it misguided loyalty?
Call it insanity?
Hey, we've just gotta keep on keeping on.
It's just the way it is, innit.......

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:46 pm 
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UllFC wrote:Feels like the club is on life support at the moment, one more bad move and things could turn really critical. I have never felt so apathetic watching the club as yesterday, even in the 90s when the rugby was poor we had an excuse becuase the team were absolutely broke, as in not paying wages on time broke...6 years now of watching overpaid, overhyped players.

As I said earlier in the thread its one more pass from me, and after that im picking and choosing games if the entertainment level doesnt increase. Waste of time getting 'free' games on a pass if they are dead rubber loop games where the team cant be bothered.


Good post. I think my issues are:
1. The same decision makers at the top of the club appointed Smith. As I've said a few times I've never been enamoured with him; obviously too early to tell what's possible at FC but I'm not as unquestioningly confident in him as many others seem to be and we're definitely stretching credibility that all will magically come good because he is at the club given the hole we're in now Whatever squad he inherited a coach's job is to get the most from available resources and over recent weeks he has comprehensively failed to do so.
2. Based on current recruitment and outs v ins, even with a couple of signings to come the squad has injury prone players at 1, 3, 4, 6,. Talk of Hoy in the halves next year would mean no organising general which we know from pre Sneyd days is a disaster. Certainly feels like a 10th place finish will be backed up with a reduced playing budget.

I have no idea what the extent of our ambitions are right now (survival, play-offs, lucky cup run?) and the looming tenancy renewal is another potential risk. I think we need a some clarity. As an out of towner who's been a passholder for many years including the Agar tenure I've not decided whether to renew. Between Smith's vague and meandering comments and the complete vacuum of comms from the club's leadership it's all a bit "meh"

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:41 pm 
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The start next season will be huge for the club , It will be mostly TS team and pressure will be on him to get the team moving in the right direction .

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 Post subject: Re: State of the Nation
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:04 pm 
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Mrs Barista wrote:Good post. I think my issues are:
1. The same decision makers at the top of the club appointed Smith. As I've said a few times I've never been enamoured with him; obviously too early to tell what's possible at FC but I'm not as unquestioningly confident in him as many others seem to be and we're definitely stretching credibility that all will magically come good because he is at the club given the hole we're in now Whatever squad he inherited a coach's job is to get the most from available resources and over recent weeks he has comprehensively failed to do so.
2. Based on current recruitment and outs v ins, even with a couple of signings to come the squad has injury prone players at 1, 3, 4, 6,. Talk of Hoy in the halves next year would mean no organising general which we know from pre Sneyd days is a disaster. Certainly feels like a 10th place finish will be backed up with a reduced playing budget.

I have no idea what the extent of our ambitions are right now (survival, play-offs, lucky cup run?) and the looming tenancy renewal is another potential risk. I think we need a some clarity. As an out of towner who's been a passholder for many years including the Agar tenure I've not decided whether to renew. Between Smith's vague and meandering comments and the complete vacuum of comms from the club's leadership it's all a bit "meh"


I beleive we will be bottom half next year but the devil is in the detail, if we are still in the running for 6th with a game or two to go that would be seen as progress. Theres also a big difference in narrowly losing games and conceding 52 points.

While im feeling grumpy...can the club also stop treating the last home game like an episode of 'this is your life' stop the players bringing kids on the pitch before the game, there was 2 points at stake it wasnt a testimonial. Plenty of time after the game for a lap of honour. It feels like every season we just write the last home game off as a sentimental 'freindly'

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