Quite. There'll be plenty of doom and gloom to go around after Wire finish with us.

Yep there will be the knives out come mon if we get beat,

If? Can't see us winning under any circumstances TBH. I'll be happy not to be embarrassed.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at times I really don't.

Exactly. If you can't allow yourself a little enjoyment of an improbable derby win that takes us to 4th, what's the point? Time enough in a season to be downhearted but tonight's not in that category.

If you read the top clubs' forums when they play crap and win their fans don't blink an eye. Some on here wring their hands so hard it must hurt when Hull get out of jail. 4th in a so far competitive league with hopefully improvements to come in the season. Not too bad.

Agreed. Plus, hasn't Radford won 4 of the last 5 derbies? People used to moan like feck about our lack of derby appetite in other coaches' tenures. Can be seen as a positive of sorts.

Indeed. We're miles from utopia but some are so entrenched in their positions it seems too hard to even enjoy a crazy win like today. It's almost sad.

No hand-wringing from me. I'm mellow tonight and encased in a warm glow. About to watch the match again, well, the last 20 minutes or so, anyway!

But I think the opening post is very valid, and the question needs to be asked:



And the question of whether or not this was the players or coach-driven is one which is worth exploring as the answer could dictate the nature of the rest of the season. If it was the players, this indicates the whole issue of the last few games boils down to confidence. Get it back and we're laughing.

But if it was a conscious strategy from the coach to be cautious then there are a whole load more questions raised. Still can't get the images of Lee walking with palm raised from the dressing room the other week and Ellis and Pritchard's body language as it was happening. I just hope there is no conflict with the players' ideas of how we should be playing and that of the coach, that's all.

Hope Kosh is right, because the way forward will be a lot simpler with everyone in cohesion and confidence can be regained rapidly with spells like that final 20 under their belts. But there was one hell of a big difference in ability and desire shown after 60 minutes, and it's reasonable to question why.

But tonight? Yes, I'm happy. Hands in the air, not wringing tonight.

It's sport though. Remember when kr came back at etihad and beat us after we were well up? We were poor creatively for 50 mins but during that time our big forwards continued to batter theirs. In the last quarter that was a big factor as the game opened up. The likes of Taylor Ellis and Frank became more effective as KR wilted. Couple that with Houghton deciding to start sniping off the back of it and all of a sudden we seemed to overcome the loss of one of our playmakers and start playing what was in front of us. We took so many wrong options in the first half it was untrue - no one told us to do that it was mainly a case of individuals not playing well and also less so some pretty average calls from the officials. Shall and Fonua showed some class in the last 20 and things turned. Momentum is massive in the modern game and our pack deserved their share of it in the last 20 as they earned it earlier in the game.

Game plans are theoretical - they need to be enacted otherwise they're worthless. We got our implementation badly wrong for a good while today but the graft the forwards put in wasn't wasted. Glad you're enjoying the evening. Same here