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Standee wrote:I have no idea, but he'd be a lot more help had we actively engaged him as soon as it was relevant.
Him and the local MP should have been involved as soon as the first application was refused IMO.
The one thing the UKBA don't like is extra work and if a decision involves them having to do ministerial briefings and replies to official letters, they would probably just decide that at the end of it all, the visa can be issued.
Joined: Oct 15 2003 Posts: 53839 Location: North Yorkshire
Standee wrote:So you think it is acceptable that we have not sought intervention/clarification from the relevant minister? Then fair enough.
Has the cuddle crew died, only to be replaced by the Sycophant Seven?
I think he would have been a last resort as I don't really know what power he has to help or how interested he would be.
I was never a memeber of any club or crew, I have just have my opinion, sometimes its pro FC and sometimes is not.
You just can't go around telling people they are always sticking up for the club when you and others often do nothing but slag the club off for what they do/don't do.
PAUL M wrote:I think he would have been a last resort as I don't really know what power he has to help or how interested he would be.
I was never a memeber of any club or crew, I have just have my opinion, sometimes its pro FC and sometimes is not.
You just can't go around telling people they are always sticking up for the club when you and others often do nothing but slag the club off for what they do/don't do.
Read that again, and see the irony Paul.
He would be very interested, he's the Minister for Spor, it's kind of what he does for a living.
Joined: Oct 15 2003 Posts: 53839 Location: North Yorkshire
Standee wrote:Read that again, and see the irony Paul.
He would be very interested, he's the Minister for Spor, it's kind of what he does for a living.
There is no irony, I was not the one who made the initial attack on someone, I just pointed out how ironic your post was. Anyway I am bored of it already and certainly am not interested in making up names of clubs and crews.
Well then maybe he would be able to help out and maybe Hull should have thought about speaking to him sooner, even if it was for some general guidance? Hull/Crocker and his agent seem to have tried to cover all basis and put in as much as evidence as they can second time around and I can't see how speaking to this guy would not have helped in some way.
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Kosh wrote:Actually, the article only indicates that neither have been in touch with Sutcliffe. Since he points out that this is not under his control anyway, that hard counts as not doing anything.
The RFL and the clubs have been in touch with the Home Office/UKBA/Immigration Department - the folk who actually control what happens.
Having the Sports Minister on side can't hurt, but I doubt it will prove crucial. I also have to question just how effective this guy is if he is genuinely unaware of the issue.
Pretty much spot on Kosh. But there are posters on here that will blame the club for every thing.It would be refreshing for these to actually compliment the club once in a while as the club are very pro-actiev in many things it does.
Forever FC wrote:Pretty much spot on Kosh. But there are posters on here that will blame the club for every thing.It would be refreshing for these to actually compliment the club once in a while as the club are very pro-actiev in many things it does.
I think we are in a bit of a 50/50 sit rep at the moment and any help we can get would be 100% recieved, but official involvement could be a negative thing as well remember.....!!
It seems to me there is a lot more to this at present as it has now dragged on and on and there has to be either an awful lot of documentation involved or a situation where the dept involved are looking for someone to make a descision ..
but we shall never know till the story breaks until then we are all guessing but given how quickly all the other poor buggers were told the big NO to their quest to play in SL this one is intriguing the longer it drags on.
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