I think it's time to say goodbye to Sao. Can be great on his day but too often lets us down with his indiscipline and his reckless offloads. If it wasn't for Smith's match winner at home to London Sao would have cost us that game with a stupid off load.

Hopefully a non-fed centre or if not a prop who is more reliable.

Not sure there us the availability of a good enough running half, so we either sign Seizer who has been decent this year or take the risk and wait it out.

This hasn't worked out for us in the past, signing Reynokds, Gale, Clifford and Brown all late on.

Could maybe get a queensland cup player, but good chance they won't be good enough for SL.

Club are in a tough place, nit exactly the most attractive club right now.

Hurrell is out of contract.....

If we have Abdull we should be looking for speedy running half to compliment his style

If sao goes we absolutely have to get another decent prop or we'll be royally screwed no matter who we sign in the halfs

I still can't get my head around Cust. I do feel he is a waste of a quota spot to be a back up half or 9.

Even if Sao stays we could do with another prop/second row.

If Sao leaves our 4 Props would be Ese Ese, Ashworth, Aydin and Fash. As much as we are weak at centre, if Sao goes we best have another prop lined up first. As Marcus said above, feel we need a more seasoned forward even if Sao stayed

Yeah forwards would be a huge worry. Would be great spending money on a quality centre but if our forwards end up been as ineffective as they have this year then it doesn't matter how good the centres and halves are when they've got no platform to play from. We'll be consistently stuck in our own half again all season.

Easier to get another forward than a centre though without a quota spot.

Agree we need another forward, two if Sao goes.

Got to be looking for at least one other middle of regular superleague quality if Sao goes. Hastings would be a better option than Cust and/or Seizer if there's options with their 'signings'

I’ll keep saying it. Sezer has signed. Only get another quota spot if we find someone daft enough to take Sao on.

Carlos confirmed as leaving at the end of the season.

What a legend. Injury hit in the last couple of years but loved watching him at his peak.

Gutted he is just shy of a testimonial at the club.

At his peak he was easily one of the best centres in SL, and should go down as one of our best imports in the SL era.

Swapping Sezer for Hastings would be great.

Offload Sao, sign Chris Hill and Mattu English for the pack and then sign a quota centre like Brent Naden.

Sorry to see him go tbh. Still the best centre at the club and he's not that old at 32.
Given his best years to Hull and he'll forever be a part of that historic 2016 team.

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Carlos is a real hero for our time and the last of the 2016 invincible to leave the club. His final two season have been injury plagued and he has never really got going, but you only have to watch him now one on one with his opposite centre to know he still has it and he's scored some memorable tries over the years and and as an unselfish provider made a whole lot more.

Myler is being ruthless and that is exactly what we need and it hurts at times, but I guess we have to see just how much fit and mobile quality we can get into next years team and so this, sort of wheeler dealing is necessary. So, I guess it's a logical step but never-the-less a sad one. But he departs leaving us with some great memories of a true professional, who has never been any bother on the field or in the changing room and who has always given his all for the cause.

Great memories and good luck to Carlos who probably thinks a move will bring him more luck injury wise whilst for us lot his leaving sees us taking another step forward to next season and another step into the dark of uncertainty.

A real shame Carlos couldn't get one more year and have what would have been a very well deserved testimonial.
Been one of our best ever overseas signings and will forever be remembered as a true club legend.

So would tearing up the contracts of Hardaker,Chamberlain Holmes,and Cust.
Starting again with a real plan on how to make this club great again targeting quality players in positions we need rather than fillers who have experience but are unlikely to enhance what is likely to be another season in the bottom three

Which players?

And before you start I'm not calling Hardaker, Holmes etc brilliant signings or world class.

Luckily the club and Myler have the brains to release this would be suicide, can see the argument for Cust as would could sign a player from the NRL (although there is a no guarantee they would be better than Cust), but to get rid of those three and try and replace them now would be crazy.

This is the problem with posters who moan about the signings they can't name players that are better, available and sign for Hull.

Just repeat the same thing over and over again, but offer no alternatives.

Totally agree...
Myler has stated, the players that we require currently are
primarily experienced, determined attitude and mentality on the field to mentor the youngsters.
Both Myler and Cartwright have had previous experience with these new acquisitions except Abdull & Bourouh.
We've had players previously with more technical ability,but, the problem was questionable attitudes.

We have had to take some gambles, but the club did try and sign Lam, Whitehaed and Sailor, all turned us down to sign for clubs fighting for the play offs.

Think Myler has had a really tough job, I'm sure he didn't realise how hard it would be to sell the club to players, mess created well before he came. But there are positives

Better players coming in
New coach
New assistant coach
New physio and rumored S&C
Young players coming through

Whilst I'd love us to be fighting for the play offs, at the moment I'd be happy to not be embarrassed on near weekly basis.

Definitely agree with those positives. Yes, the players we are signing aren't the most exciting but they are better both in ability and, perhaps most importantly, attitude. We've got to turn that around first and foremost. Fight for every point, make sure that we give our opponents a contest every week. Whilst there are other factors at play contributing to our current demise, the mentality issues that plague us is what alarms me the most.