Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:32 am
Theeaststander1
Junior Player
Joined: Sep 25 2023 Posts: 123
DSJ1983 wrote:Rovers obviously see Macdonald as a big upgrade on Evalds at fullback but want quota and cap dispensation to make it work. Even if Salford don’t get any short term investment (I think they might anyway with these Aussies ) I’m not sure the other clubs will just let Rovers have it, especially the likes of Hull and Leigh who would argue that we have cap space already to take players and the likes of Wigan, Saints and Wire especially might just see it as only working to strengthen a rival in Rovers if they’re not desperate for any Salford players themselves.
He’s a top player but I agree with one of the posters above I’d just stick to our target of Cross as safer longer term option. It’s a gamble that Rovers might want to take because it might be the difference of a trophy for them this season but we’re not at the level and Macdonald would mean a lot of wriggling around cap and quota when any potential dispensation ended in 2026. Cross on a three year deal would be a good signing, he’d add that pace to the centres that we lack, fits within our cap and non quota and maybe Salford would be willing to do a deal anyway if it helped them keep the bigger stars.
Sneyd I’d think would be the last player they’d want to lose. From our end I’d like it to happen and think a Sneyd and Sezer would work well but if it was a straight shoot out I think the Leigh move would be his choice. Like I said a few days ago though think the reports of the ‘Salford fire sale’ are coming from a journalist with a well placed source at one club, might not be representative of what the whole league wants anyway. I suppose we’ll likely find out later when they meet.
It will 100% get agreed upon as if it doesn’t, Salford will go under and not be able to get rid of players due to most teams being near caps / also Salford would want to maximise potential bidding wars for their players so they’d also want the rules flexed
From a playing field perspective maybe some teams would opt out and say no, but if Salford go under in a few weeks that’s a team lost which would be far worse than letting a few teams have players
As for his position if he did end up at rovers he wouldn’t see full back, he’d be up against gildart/broadbent for centre, my guess he would slot straight in
Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:53 am
Raggytash
Player Coach
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I don't really get Cross. He's just played an entire season on the wing. He's almost certainly not as quick as Barron or Martin. And he's not a particularly strong runner. I'm already worried about Briscoe starting in front of one of our young wingers, with Cross we'd face the prospect of neither of them starting. And as a centre he's probably at best on a par with Hardaker.
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Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:03 am
Dave K.
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Joined: Mar 14 2003 Posts: 25868 Location: Back in Hull.
Raggytash wrote:I don't really get Cross. He's just played an entire season on the wing. He's almost certainly not as quick as Barron or Martin. And he's not a particularly strong runner. I'm already worried about Briscoe starting in front of one of our young wingers, with Cross we'd face the prospect of neither of them starting. And as a centre he's probably at best on a par with Hardaker.
Worth watching his highlights, particularly from the 2023 season,where he mainly played centre (not really a suprise when played wing, with Salfords centres), but he is quick and a strong runner.
I'm sure he would be signed to play centre and is better than Chamberlain and offers pace in the centres that we don't haven
Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:43 am
DSJ1983
Academy Player
Joined: May 10 2024 Posts: 386
Raggytash wrote:I don't really get Cross. He's just played an entire season on the wing. He's almost certainly not as quick as Barron or Martin. And he's not a particularly strong runner. I'm already worried about Briscoe starting in front of one of our young wingers, with Cross we'd face the prospect of neither of them starting. And as a centre he's probably at best on a par with Hardaker.
He played as a centre a couple of years ago might have been his first SL season and looked good, got a really good try return too from centre. Disagree about him being a strong runner, he was in the top 20 SL players for meters and tackle busts in 24.
He’d definitely add more strike and pace in the centres that we could do with. Maybe we could look at a quota centre for 2026 but domestic wise don’t see anyone better who’s off contract for 2026 even if we decide to wait. If there’s a chance we can get him snd get him in for 2025 we would take the opportunity IMO.
Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:07 pm
DSJ1983
Academy Player
Joined: May 10 2024 Posts: 386
Theeaststander1 wrote:It will 100% get agreed upon as if it doesn’t, Salford will go under and not be able to get rid of players due to most teams being near caps / also Salford would want to maximise potential bidding wars for their players so they’d also want the rules flexed
Clubs have voted against the dispensations. For me it did seem like Rovers leaked the idea to maybe put pressure on other clubs who wouldn’t be keen. You was right about Salford wanting it though, they seemingly they voted in favour.
Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:27 pm
Theeaststander1
Junior Player
Joined: Sep 25 2023 Posts: 123
DSJ1983 wrote:Clubs have voted against the dispensations. For me it did seem like Rovers leaked the idea to maybe put pressure on other clubs who wouldn’t be keen. You was right about Salford wanting it though, they seemingly they voted in favour.
Not being bias but this whole debacle has 0 to do with rovers, teams like cas etc will want to see the back of Salford etc
This to me concretes the fact that this is the end of Salford, granted if hull offer them 700k for sneyd in which they won’t, only yourselves and Leigh have cap space/money, the price of the players has just shot down
Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:49 pm
DSJ1983
Academy Player
Joined: May 10 2024 Posts: 386
Theeaststander1 wrote:Not being bias but this whole debacle has 0 to do with rovers, teams like cas etc will want to see the back of Salford etc
This to me concretes the fact that this is the end of Salford, granted if hull offer them 700k for sneyd in which they won’t, only yourselves and Leigh have cap space/money, the price of the players has just shot down
Think Rovers wanted Macdonald and will have pushed for dispensations and obviously briefed the media, but agree it looks really worrying for Salford, I expected them to put up a fight for players even if the RFL suggested they offer them around.
Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:51 pm
REDWHITEANDBLUE
International Board Member
Joined: Jan 04 2003 Posts: 4951
Theeaststander1 wrote:Not being bias but this whole debacle has 0 to do with rovers, teams like cas etc will want to see the back of Salford etc
This to me concretes the fact that this is the end of Salford, granted if hull offer them 700k for sneyd in which they won’t, only yourselves and Leigh have cap space/money, the price of the players has just shot down
Wakefield and Wire have cap space.
Wakefield, Leigh, Wire and Huuds have a quotation spot available
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