FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home Hull FC Liam Watts has been suspended for two games



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 68 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:14 pm 
Player Coach
Fringe Player

Joined: Jan 29 2010
Posts: 865
Now the idiots judgement is up I notice that previous appearances by Watts are counted as an aggravating factor. All well and good until you remember that lovely gentle Ben Flower managed to get a charge reduced because although he had rather more previous this was the first time he was up for that particular kind of foul. Not that I'd suggest that the process favours certain clubs.

I see that they have finally changed the timing of the other incident so its at least believable in that respect.

Anyway I don't think there's anything to lose by appealing this.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:55 pm 
Club Coach
First Team Player

Joined: Mar 29 2005
Posts: 1376
http://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/dis ... #advSearch
Ben Roberts 14/04/17
Opponent slips prior to contact. Player making legitimate attempt to make tackle with arm in low position. Makes contact to head of opponent. Penalty sufficient.
No Charge
High tackle 1st minute ( Tupou )

There'll be many more if we look and that's just the ones that get referred. How many head tackles/contact occurred in the last round or just in our game? Is there really 2.75 games difference between them all???

Question to RFL , Explain?
http://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/dis ... #advSearch
Ben Roberts 14/04/17
Opponent slips prior to contact. Player making legitimate attempt to make tackle with arm in low position. Makes contact to head of opponent. Penalty sufficient.
No Charge
High tackle 1st minute ( Tupou )

There'll be many more if we look and that's just the ones that get referred. How many head tackles/contact occurred in the last round or just in our game? Is there really 2.75 games difference between them all???

Question to RFL , Explain?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:12 pm 
Club Coach
First Team Player

Joined: Mar 29 2005
Posts: 1376
In fact Ben Roberts has another one ON/347/15. By comparison that one is worse. Nothing against him , although you need to watch your head in the first two minutes of a game , his was the first head tackle case I came across.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:21 pm 
Player Coach
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Apr 20 2009
Posts: 808
Location: Hemsworth
ChrisH wrote:http://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinary#advSearch
Ben Roberts 14/04/17
Opponent slips prior to contact. Player making legitimate attempt to make tackle with arm in low position. Makes contact to head of opponent. Penalty sufficient.
No Charge
High tackle 1st minute ( Tupou )

There'll be many more if we look and that's just the ones that get referred. How many head tackles/contact occurred in the last round or just in our game? Is there really 2.75 games difference between them all???

Question to RFL , Explain?


You are right ChrisH. I referred to this one in another thread the other day. I was at that game, and was at the game on Sunday and so saw both incidents. There was no difference in the 2, even to the point that both attackers went off with concussion. The only difference was that Tupou came back on and Gale didn't, but thats irrelevant. This inconsistency is ruining the game. I don't think I've watched a game this season, on TV or live, that there hasn't been inconsistency in decisions.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:33 pm 
Club Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Feb 12 2005
Posts: 13126
Location: East Staffordshire
Everyone in the league knows that if it had been Sean O'Loughlin and not Liam Watts there would have been no case to answer. That's not having a go at O'Loughlin it's simply an indicator of the obvious and frankly unopposed and blatant way this system operates. Every club, player, and fan knows this and yet it still proliferates. I was hoping for big things from the review panel (including Motu?) that was supposed to study and recommend actions in this area last season. Alas we are still mired in total garbage, inconsistency, and pure bias that this shambolic and amateurish procedure offers.

The game has reached its peak on the field - if anything it's already started going backwards - but off the field the RFL continue to plumb the depths of new lows even where we thought that wasn't possible. It's a shame but a bunch of biased incompetents at the heart of the game continue to drag it through the gutter.






"To play your best football you need players with enthusiasm and drive and energy." - Peter Sterling

Adam Pearson said not wrote:I know there are two franchises and two clubs (in Hull) and that will remain forever more

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:20 pm 
International Star
Academy Player

Joined: Sep 16 2010
Posts: 264
Isaiah wrote:I wonder if we will appeal?

don't think so radders may not like it but will probably accept it. ithink watts has been treat very harshly

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:45 pm 
International Chairman
Staffs FC wrote:Everyone in the league knows that if it had been Sean O'Loughlin and not Liam Watts there would have been no case to answer. That's not having a go at O'Loughlin it's simply an indicator of the obvious and frankly unopposed and blatant way this system operates. Every club, player, and fan knows this and yet it still proliferates. I was hoping for big things from the review panel (including Motu?) that was supposed to study and recommend actions in this area last season. Alas we are still mired in total garbage, inconsistency, and pure bias that this shambolic and amateurish procedure offers.

The game has reached its peak on the field - if anything it's already started going backwards - but off the field the RFL continue to plumb the depths of new lows even where we thought that wasn't possible. It's a shame but a bunch of biased incompetents at the heart of the game continue to drag it through the gutter.

With respect to SOL, pretty much every time he has gone up it's 'examplary' record blah blah blah, well it would be if they keep stating it is so and not charging and/or being blind to tackles like the high tackle on the Wakey lad last year that was a shocker.

The inconsistancy never mind ignoring physics/phsiology is beyond contemp.
I said this on a rugby union video with regard to Dylan hartley when he got a 6 week ban for a 'head high' when the intial movement would have meant the arm would hit the ball carrier well below chest height, as DH arm is moving toward the player he is felled from behind and contact to the head is made. it would have being physically impossible for DH to move the trajectory of his arm which would have being legitimate in the first instance in that split second from the player being upright to not.
in watts case not only is his arm not swinging (DH was to a degree but irrelevant as you have to swing your arms in some fashion to make a tackle)
Watts however had his arm by his side and Gale's head virtually at his hip as gale fell into Watts arm.
it is ludicrous to suggest that it was careless (their description), how can barely moving your arm and the player falling into you be your fault, was Watts supposed to just not move and allow gale or any other player to just do what they want and not bother making any attempt at a tackle on the basis they might come to the ground, it's not even possible for the human brain to judge before an event happens what the outcome is going to be never mind change a part of your body mid-flight in a quicker time than a sprinter comes out the blocks, it simply isn't possible.
You're looking at 0.7 seconds at best if not longer that's just for the brain to absorb and diseminate what's happened (we know this from crash investigations on the road) for the motor action of the arm to be moved comes after but as your body's already in motion it's already way way too late to change and the event has already happened before your brain can do anything to even attempt to change the motion.

Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspendedsuspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:53 pm 
International Board Member
Club Captain

Joined: Feb 21 2003
Posts: 3460
Location: West Hull
The thing is. How long can this be allowed to carry on?

It's not the first time, remember Peae a couple of years ago, and it won't be the last unless we start making a stand against them.

It shouldn't be allowed to continue.






Challenge Cup Winners 2016 (at Wembley) - HULL FC

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:54 pm 
International Star
International Star

Joined: Aug 15 2011
Posts: 5318
Staffs FC wrote:I was hoping for big things from the review panel (including Motu?) that was supposed to study and recommend actions in this area last season.
Still haven't reported yet.

http://www.rugby-league.com/article/390 ... ive_scores
Staffs FC wrote:I was hoping for big things from the review panel (including Motu?) that was supposed to study and recommend actions in this area last season.
Still haven't reported yet.

http://www.rugby-league.com/article/390 ... ive_scores






Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Liam Watts has been suspendedsuspended for two games
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:22 pm 
Club Owner
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Feb 09 2004
Posts: 7735
Location: Here there and everywhere
davey37 wrote:The thing is. How long can this be allowed to carry on?

It's not the first time, remember Peae a couple of years ago, and it won't be the last unless we start making a stand against them.

It shouldn't be allowed to continue.


Could you please explain how a stand can be made? genuine question






Nil......Zip.....Nothing....ZERO....0

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 68 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next





It is currently Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:50 am


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Charlie_0010, Chris71, ComeOnYouUll, Dave K., Hasbag, JACK DETH, Mild Rover, mwindass and 164 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Fri Feb 07, 2025 11:50 am
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Dave K.
4865
35m
Challenge Cup - York Acorn
Dave K.
45
40m
HJ spruce-up
Uncle Rico
30
49m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
3135
51m
Transfer Talk V5
MjM
833
Recent
Catalans again
faxcar
21
Recent
Small squad numbers
christopher
55
Recent
Sheffield Challenge Cup A
endoman
27
Recent
Caius Faatili signs
PopTart
53
Recent
Goal kicker
Captain Hook
23
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64559
Recent
Film game
BOSS HOG
7347
Recent
Season tickets
Fujiman
5
Recent
Season launch
Victor
7
Recent
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 4
PopTart
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
Goal kicker
Captain Hook
23
2s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64559
8s
Salford
karetaker
162
8s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
3135
8s
Caius Faatili signs
PopTart
53
10s
Season tickets
Fujiman
5
14s
Catalans again
faxcar
21
15s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41545
18s
Pre Season - 2025
B0NES
515
20s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Dave K.
4865
21s
Rumours and signings v9
That Mon
29219
25s
Junior
Zig
33
26s
Challenge Cup - York Acorn
Dave K.
45
30s
Film game
BOSS HOG
7347
33s
Sheffield Challenge Cup A
endoman
27
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squad for the Cup game
The Speculat
3
TODAY
Last Man Standing - Match Prediction Competition
Jemmo
1
TODAY
We need injury update
Khlav Kalash
12
TODAY
Betfred Super League Season Set For Spectacular Start
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Smoking vapes cheaper options
someonehasmy
1
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
Cokey
5
TODAY
Eagles v Wigan Parking
hawk-eye
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Workington
LeythIg
3
TODAY
Sheffield Challenge Cup A
endoman
27
TODAY
LukeLittler stadium
sir adrian m
12
TODAY
French
Mark_P1973
4
TODAY
Can we compare
Big lads mat
11
TODAY
Goal kicker
Captain Hook
23
TODAY
A look behind the scenes at Warringtons preseason
ratticusfinc
10
TODAY
Cas H
Clickin'knee
25
TODAY
Fantasy Rugby League
Ashton Bears
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Betfred Super League Season Se..
276
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
479
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1166
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
951
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1058
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
1218
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
1189
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
1275
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1715
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2519
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
2588
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons..
2354
New Roles for HULL KR...
2290
Jet2 has signed a major sponso..
2446
Thirkill and Hood complete Hul..
2606
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Fri 7th Feb
CC2025
19:30
York-Hull KR
Sat 8th Feb
CC2025
12:00
Halifax-Catalans
Sun 9th Feb
CC2025
13:00
Bradford-Castleford
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Feb
CC2025 2 Keighley12-72York
1895 0 Midlands52-24Whitehaven
1895 0 Newcastle0-60Crusaders
Sat 1st Feb
1895 0 Rochdale64-12Cornwall
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Dave K.
4865
35m
Challenge Cup - York Acorn
Dave K.
45
40m
HJ spruce-up
Uncle Rico
30
49m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
3135
51m
Transfer Talk V5
MjM
833
Recent
Catalans again
faxcar
21
Recent
Small squad numbers
christopher
55
Recent
Sheffield Challenge Cup A
endoman
27
Recent
Caius Faatili signs
PopTart
53
Recent
Goal kicker
Captain Hook
23
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64559
Recent
Film game
BOSS HOG
7347
Recent
Season tickets
Fujiman
5
Recent
Season launch
Victor
7
Recent
Wakefield Trinity Heritage Podcast - Season 4
PopTart
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1s
Goal kicker
Captain Hook
23
2s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
64559
8s
Salford
karetaker
162
8s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Stu M
3135
8s
Caius Faatili signs
PopTart
53
10s
Season tickets
Fujiman
5
14s
Catalans again
faxcar
21
15s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41545
18s
Pre Season - 2025
B0NES
515
20s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Dave K.
4865
21s
Rumours and signings v9
That Mon
29219
25s
Junior
Zig
33
26s
Challenge Cup - York Acorn
Dave K.
45
30s
Film game
BOSS HOG
7347
33s
Sheffield Challenge Cup A
endoman
27
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Squad for the Cup game
The Speculat
3
TODAY
Last Man Standing - Match Prediction Competition
Jemmo
1
TODAY
We need injury update
Khlav Kalash
12
TODAY
Betfred Super League Season Set For Spectacular Start
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Smoking vapes cheaper options
someonehasmy
1
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 1
Cokey
5
TODAY
Eagles v Wigan Parking
hawk-eye
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Workington
LeythIg
3
TODAY
Sheffield Challenge Cup A
endoman
27
TODAY
LukeLittler stadium
sir adrian m
12
TODAY
French
Mark_P1973
4
TODAY
Can we compare
Big lads mat
11
TODAY
Goal kicker
Captain Hook
23
TODAY
A look behind the scenes at Warringtons preseason
ratticusfinc
10
TODAY
Cas H
Clickin'knee
25
TODAY
Fantasy Rugby League
Ashton Bears
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Betfred Super League Season Se..
276
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
479
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1166
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
951
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1058
Thatto Heath Hold On To Set Up..
1218
Army Beat The RAF In Challenge..
1189
Waterhead Warriors Golden Poin..
1275
Four From Rugby League Honoure..
1715
Leeds Rhinos Beat Wakefield Tr..
2519
Wigan Warriors crowned Team of..
2588
Ben Lam Leaves Dragons..
2354
New Roles for HULL KR...
2290
Jet2 has signed a major sponso..
2446
Thirkill and Hood complete Hul..
2606


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.