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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:10 pm 
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What annoys me is that Wakey fans are calling him a dirty player and say he had a cheap shot ,Ellis is not dirty and does not need cheap shots his tackling is hard enough to rattle players .On the video both sets of fans see it the way they want to see it,yes he clearly caught him and the law say any contact with head is foul play but was it deliberate No

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:22 pm 
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ccs wrote:Simon: Rule – 15.1(a) Detail – Striking – Strikes with arm/shoulder - reckless Grade – B

Tupou: Accidental clash of heads in the tackle. No charge.


So despite a few Wakey fans telling us that Ellis fouled Tupou with a shoulder charge, they were wrong, didn't Chester also moan about the challenge?

Maybe they should wait and watch the video before accusing a player of foul play and calling him a "thug" etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:23 pm 
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My first thought on watching the video is that Ellis is probably unlucky that Simon moves down into the way of his arm, I also thought that Simon wasn't going anywhere so Ellis probably doesn't need to go in swinging his arm like that. Maybe he's trying to wrap the ball up, maybe he's trying to knock Simon to the ground who knows. Unfortunately he's caught his head and IMO is rightfully charged.

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:12 pm 
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Not sure if the disciplinary webpage has been updated but it now says

RANGE OF RECOMMENDED SANCTIONS IN RELATION TO CHARGED GRADE* :

1-2. Early Guilty Plea Offered and Accepted. 1 Match Suspension

- See more at: http://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/dis ... LQIVu.dpuf

So guess w're without him for Friday?
Not sure if the disciplinary webpage has been updated but it now says

RANGE OF RECOMMENDED SANCTIONS IN RELATION TO CHARGED GRADE* :

1-2. Early Guilty Plea Offered and Accepted. 1 Match Suspension

- See more at: http://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/dis ... LQIVu.dpuf

So guess w're without him for Friday?

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:29 pm 
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Best decision we could have hoped for imo, and fair enough imo. Ellis himself has admitted as much.

No Ellis next week is a blow! But I think he would have got 2 without the early plea.






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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:32 pm 
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Bal wrote:Best decision we could have hoped for imo, and fair enough imo. Ellis himself has admitted as much.

No Ellis next week is a blow! But I think he would have got 2 without the early plea.


It's a shame as there's a noticeable difference between the Hull team when he plays and when he doesn't. It gives someone else a chance though, and means he'll be fresh for Saints in the cup.

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 Post subject: Re: Ellis - ban?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:33 pm 
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Probably because the club know they have no chance of using logic to prove it wasn't reckless. Howcan you prove it WAS reckless would be my question, just by there being contact to the head, ..utterly ridiculous.
Take Catalans Stewart 'dangerous throw', deliberately lifted leg and only by luck did the tackled player land safely and gets off with caution for technique...lifting a leg in that manner is the definition of reckless and has known devastating consequences.
It's like being punished more for nudging a back bumper when someone goes to pull away then stops abruptly than drink driving and not hurting anyone...
The disciplinary is and has not being fit for purpose for a long long time.
On field decisions need to be reviewed there and then in any case as the team offended against invariably recieves no benefit.

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Ellis out Thompson in.






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Ellis out Thompson in.






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A unknown superstar wrote:Ellis out Thompson in.


Hadley is the better option.I like Thompson but misses too many tackles

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