Are you being serious? that is a disgusting comment. The thousands of civilians that lost their lives weren't lucky. Perhaps you have forgotten what happened to Hull during the War. I suggest you read this;
Hull was the most severely damaged British city or town during the Second World War, with 95 percent of houses damaged. Hull had more than 1,000 hours spent under air raid alerts. Hull was the target of the first daylight raid of the war and the last piloted air raid on Britain.
Of a population of approximately 320,000 at the beginning of the war, approximately 152,000 were made homeless as a result of bomb destruction or damage. Overall almost 1,200 people were killed and 3,000 injured by the air raids.
More than 5,000 houses were destroyed and half of the city centre destroyed. The cost of bomb damage was estimated at £20 million (1952, £513,958,707 as a consumer price equivalent), with 3,000,000 square feet (280,000 m2) of factory space, several oil and flour mills, the Riverside Quay and 27 churches, 14 schools or hospitals, 42 pubs and 8 cinemas ruined; only 6,000 out of the 91,000 houses were undamaged at the end of the war. The extent of the damage was similar to that of the Plymouth Blitz.Despite the damage the port continued to function throughout the war.
There will be people who post on this forum who would have lost relatives during the war. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Can we move in from the faux outrage about the fact he is French, the war, etc and get back to the point at hand. Ignoring these idiot comments doesn't mean we justify them, it means we're not 12 and don't want to get into a bickering competition.
It was a cowardly act. Any dive is. And it was a clear dive. Any dive is done to get an opposition player in to trouble and to gain an unfair advantage. That's why it's cowardly. The rest, including throwing the ball into the melee, was even more cowardly. And incredibly pathetic! He really made himself look a prize prat and I'd be embarrassed if a player on my team did that.
What have Rovers fans got to say on that? Ignore the idiotic comments some have made, or what other players have done in the past, or anything else to deflect from the point. What are your thoughts on his actions?
Marcus's Bicycle wrote:Are you being serious? that is a disgusting comment. The thousands of civilians that lost their lives weren't lucky. Perhaps you have forgotten what happened to Hull during the War. I suggest you read this;
Hull was the most severely damaged British city or town during the Second World War, with 95 percent of houses damaged. Hull had more than 1,000 hours spent under air raid alerts. Hull was the target of the first daylight raid of the war and the last piloted air raid on Britain.
Of a population of approximately 320,000 at the beginning of the war, approximately 152,000 were made homeless as a result of bomb destruction or damage. Overall almost 1,200 people were killed and 3,000 injured by the air raids.
More than 5,000 houses were destroyed and half of the city centre destroyed. The cost of bomb damage was estimated at £20 million (1952, £513,958,707 as a consumer price equivalent), with 3,000,000 square feet (280,000 m2) of factory space, several oil and flour mills, the Riverside Quay and 27 churches, 14 schools or hospitals, 42 pubs and 8 cinemas ruined; only 6,000 out of the 91,000 houses were undamaged at the end of the war. The extent of the damage was similar to that of the Plymouth Blitz.Despite the damage the port continued to function throughout the war.
There will be people who post on this forum who would have lost relatives during the war. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Now go educate yourself on French casualties. The damage in St Petersburg Stalingrad, Berlin, the massacre of French Jews, trade unionists French gypsies, the rounding and slaughtering of whole towns and villages around France who showed any resistance to the German occupation. The destruction of Warsaw and Poland. The 20 MILLION dead Russians, the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Come post some stats on those people and then we can talk from an educated view point on the war and the bravery of the French and other nationalities. Try opening your other eye....it's enlightening. Your outrage at my post has little validity without a comparable outpouring to the ridicule (and I have not ridiculed the victims of Hull) of the French victims.
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Wellsy13 wrote:Can we move in from the faux outrage about the fact he is French, the war, etc and get back to the point at hand. Ignoring these idiot comments doesn't mean we justify them, it means we're not 12 and don't want to get into a bickering competition.
It was a cowardly act. Any dive is. And it was a clear dive. Any dive is done to get an opposition player in to trouble and to gain an unfair advantage. That's why it's cowardly. The rest, including throwing the ball into the melee, was even more cowardly. And incredibly pathetic! He really made himself look a prize prat and I'd be embarrassed if a player on my team did that.
What have Rovers fans got to say on that? Ignore the idiotic comments some have made, or what other players have done in the past, or anything else to deflect from the point. What are your thoughts on his actions?
I've posted my view on diving. The bigger moral picture does bother me. It's of no surprise that it bothers no one else. This is born out throughout history. People ignoring bigger moral issues .it leads to the shovelling of Jewish people into gas ovens and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and others. I'm sorry it bores you. Boudebza embarrasses no one. His bravery in going on the pitch given his stature says enough for me.
Message to the moderator. The title of the thread needs changing. It's of a similar nature to the original post. C#nt fine, reference to an individual. French....maybe not.
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Marcus's Bicycle wrote:Are you being serious? that is a disgusting comment. The thousands of civilians that lost their lives weren't lucky. Perhaps you have forgotten what happened to Hull during the War. I suggest you read this;
Hull was the most severely damaged British city or town during the Second World War, with 95 percent of houses damaged. Hull had more than 1,000 hours spent under air raid alerts. Hull was the target of the first daylight raid of the war and the last piloted air raid on Britain.
Of a population of approximately 320,000 at the beginning of the war, approximately 152,000 were made homeless as a result of bomb destruction or damage. Overall almost 1,200 people were killed and 3,000 injured by the air raids.
More than 5,000 houses were destroyed and half of the city centre destroyed. The cost of bomb damage was estimated at £20 million (1952, £513,958,707 as a consumer price equivalent), with 3,000,000 square feet (280,000 m2) of factory space, several oil and flour mills, the Riverside Quay and 27 churches, 14 schools or hospitals, 42 pubs and 8 cinemas ruined; only 6,000 out of the 91,000 houses were undamaged at the end of the war. The extent of the damage was similar to that of the Plymouth Blitz.Despite the damage the port continued to function throughout the war.
There will be people who post on this forum who would have lost relatives during the war. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Good post and a reminder/education to others what our city endured during the war.
Once in Chants Ave cemetery my Grandma showed me the mass grave of all the people they couldn't identify from the raids.
That generation and their children lived through hell for six years and no comment on here relating to rugby league/(or stupid injury posts), are worthy of comparison.
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Burtons Forearm wrote:Welcome aboard Mr Clarkson. Your witty and knowledgeable and original comments are always going to enhance and throw insight on the issue.
The French resistance movement never happened then.
There's a programme on Channel 5 called World War 2 in colour on Saturday evenings. Might have finished now, but probably available on catch up. You ought to watch it. Certainly puts your 'Occasional bombing' theory to the test. I'm not saying the French didn't fight, far from it, but it may also educate you on who fought the wars in France, and the scale of non-French casualties. It is certainly worth watching.
Burtons Forearm wrote:[*]Now go educate yourself on French casualties. The damage in St Petersburg Stalingrad, Berlin, the massacre of French Jews, trade unionists French gypsies, the rounding and slaughtering of whole towns and villages around France who showed any resistance to the German occupation. The destruction of Warsaw and Poland. The 20 MILLION dead Russians, the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Come post some stats on those people and then we can talk from an educated view point on the war and the bravery of the French and other nationalities. Try opening your other eye....it's enlightening. Your outrage at my post has little validity without a comparable outpouring to the ridicule (and I have not ridiculed the victims of Hull) of the French victims.
Don't patronise me I'm well aware of the history of the WW2. In fact I've I have been to Lenningrad not St Petersburg as you incorrectly called it and was moved to tears when I learned about the siege and how they suffered during " The Great Patriotic War" The Soviets in particular suffered appallingly and that should not be forgotten. Nobody is denying that the French and other Countries suffered terrible casualties but to call us "lucky" is crass and insulting. You have made an ass of yourself and I suggest you stop posting before you embarrass yourself further.
Large Paws wrote:There's a programme on Channel 5 called World War 2 in colour on Saturday evenings. Might have finished now, but probably available on catch up. You ought to watch it. Certainly puts your 'Occasional bombing' theory to the test. I'm not saying the French didn't fight, far from it, but it may also educate you on who fought the wars in France, and the scale of non-French casualties. It is certainly worth watching.
The World at War is better. First hand interviews with all the major protagonists left alive from all sides. Literature is better I find though.
Burtons Forearm wrote:Wow the abuse I've had pointing out some issues with Mr Pritchard's form on the match thread then you read this and my dislike for Mr Taylor's antics during his career. This thread is an embarrassment to those of you responsible. Good on some of you for criticising the racsism and classless bile (even you COYH). Get your own house in order before you criticise others. Disgusting thread. Surrender monkey.......f#ck me. A guy that size playing this game and someone calls him a coward. He looked real cowardly tackling Pritchard and dropping him 1-1. Regards the racism. Just some facts. The French fought 2 world wars in their own country while we sat luckily on our island being bombed occasionally.
Why shouldn't I criticise an offensive post?
You don't like most of what I put on here but that's because the truth often hurts. You should get down off your high horse given your propensity for abusive posts.
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