Post subject: Re: Are we the worst fans in rugby league??
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:28 am
spegs
Club Coach
Joined: Apr 17 2005 Posts: 1592
[quote="hullman"]We travel in great numbers and support the team, but then we have a home Match and we are getting beat so after 65 minutes we all just March out, when Wigan fans are taking the mickey waving bye to us that I know how low we have stooped, they must of been less then 2k at full time, and we go on about been the best fans in rugby league ONLY WHEN WE ARE WINNING, and to all you that will say we have a right to do what we want cos we pay our hard earned money to go, sorry that doesn't wash with me, no matter what we shouldn't act like that and just walk cos we are getting beat, if you think it will make Pearson act your very wrong he'll just take his money and go and that will be it for hull fc, because we won't exist
Never considered myself as dyslexic until I attempted to read this post.
Post subject: Re: Are we the worst fans in rugby league??
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:39 am
easthull fc fan
International Star
Joined: Jan 20 2013 Posts: 4255
[quote="spegs"]
Some good points in your post, to many moan at our club & although after games like Thursday they are entitled to moan but it becomes very tedious to hear/read, sports about rough with the smooth, buy a season pass/ticket or don't, it's like playing the lottery Camelot promise you millions as AP promises you good rugby, doesn't always go to plan does it! But we keep going eh.
Post subject: Re: Are we the worst fans in rugby league??
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:42 am
Boys of 82
International Star
Joined: Oct 05 2014 Posts: 25
To be honest I think we're very much like the team, bog average. Where I do think we fall behind other teams especially Saints and Leeds is the lack of songs for any player. Away games are brilliant but even then its the first verse of Old Faithful, go get your fathers gun and we love you FC we do at the end (if we've won). The Derby showed what we can be like, Songs for Michaels, Lineham and Rankin and loads against Walker and rovers. Then ya come to home games and lets be honest if we're not playing Leeds or rovers the place is a morgue. If rumours are correct and the SMC are closing the South and North next season then at least we'll be closer together which might help but look crap on tele. As for The boulevard I loved the place but the atmosphere went downhill from closing off the top few rows of threepenny and when they built new stand it was a shadow of its former self.
Post subject: Re: Are we the worst fans in rugby league??
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:26 pm
Darkside Dave
Player Coach
Joined: Sep 15 2007 Posts: 562 Location: The Darkside!
Jimmy Carr wrote:I didn't buy a pass this season, and I've already made up my mind I won't next.
I nearly went to last nights game and decided at last minute to watch it on SKY, I'm glad I did.
The stadium argument is futile, there is going to be no Haliwell Jones - we don't have the money, and there is no viable alternative to the KC. Someone mentioned staying at the Boulevard and upgrading that, but that wasn't an option either, we didn't have the money then either.
And in response to fickle fans/leaving early - how else can fans show their disappointment? They can't. Not showing up in one way, and leaving early after a tonking is another. Fans rarely leave early after close well fought out defeat, but leaving early after a pounding and a very poor performance is perfectly acceptable to me. Staying till the last minute last night then applauding is basically accepting mediocrity IMO? Last night wasn't even mediocre it was utter garbage.
Fans do have a right to protest, and the players, coaches and owner should be shown that what they have served up is rubbish, we do that with our legs in not going or standing up and leaving early.
And through all of this the biggest and most glaringly obvious hole in all of it is that AP hasn't installed a proven and experienced coach. He says he's tried everything - he hasn't.
Appreciate they don't come cheap, but maybe just spending a little less on the cap and using the difference to pay for a top coach, money talks and I'm sure one could have been found if the money was there. And a top coach couldn't but be motivated by the facilities and youth structure that had been put in place.
I said last night, was the result due to the players not being good enough or because they are not coached to reach their full potential? I believe the sum of all the parts should be greater than it is, which would suggest its coaching.
So, if you want to stay till the end an applaud that last night, then fair play to you, but it seems the majority are hacked off and making their voices felt in one of the few ways they can, with their feet.
That's not fickle, it's called being vexed off.
I pretty much agree with all of that. Particularly about the coach and coaching.For the first time in 25 years of watching Hull I leaft early for a few games last year and have done the same this season, Thursday night included. It wasn't to make a statement or because I don't love my club. It was because I didn't want to watch it any more. It's personal choice and other people's opinions about what sort of fan that makes me doesn't concern me.
I believe that results like last night not only expose the skills gap between Hull and the top three or four sides but also the attitude. Last week's win against Rovers should have been just another two points in the bag. Instead, it was an event. As was 'making the eight'. Does anyone think Wigan or their fans have given a single thought to 'making the eight'? Where is our ambition? The result and it's implications were too big for the players to back up. On a bigger scale you could compare the 49-6 drubbing by Bradford after winning the Cup in 2005. That's how far we've fallen in my opinion.
If you combine Adam Pearson's well publicised ambitions and positive if rhetorical spin on the club with the underachievement of the last decade it's easy to understand the fans' frustrations. I think we are far from being the worst fans by some way.
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the (Dark) Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."
Post subject: Re: Are we the worst fans in rugby league??
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:43 pm
Jake the Peg
International Chairman
Joined: Mar 22 2007 Posts: 30477
spegs wrote:We travel in great numbers and support the team, but then we have a home Match and we are getting beat so after 65 minutes we all just March out, when Wigan fans are taking the mickey waving bye to us that I know how low we have stooped, they must of been less then 2k at full time, and we go on about been the best fans in rugby league ONLY WHEN WE ARE WINNING, and to all you that will say we have a right to do what we want cos we pay our hard earned money to go, sorry that doesn't wash with me, no matter what we shouldn't act like that and just walk cos we are getting beat, if you think it will make Pearson act your very wrong he'll just take his money and go and that will be it for hull fc, because we won't exist
Never considered myself as dyslexic until I attempted to read this post
We bend over and take a near 50 point bumming at home and you expect everyone to stay to the end and cheer the team off the field? Are you for real?
Post subject: Re: Are we the worst fans in rugby league??
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:39 pm
BuckleyStreetWire
International Star
Joined: Feb 16 2014 Posts: 1440 Location: Underground
Graham Richards wrote:Absolutely spot on.
The difference this year to season gone by is that in the past we would have a poor performance in the play offs and pack up and go home. This year we have another 7 weeks of misery to look forward to. I genuinely hope I am wrong, but given the lack of heart, desire and commitment last night I fear the worst.
In answer to the opening question, I fail to see how anybody can question the fans commitment. Since 2006 we have been served up dross with the odd highlight. I think this season is now begining to show that many will not take it any longer. AP will have to do some amazing marketing to pull things round for 2016. I certainly don't see how one or two "star" signings is going to make a massive difference.
Seven weeks of misery? You've beaten Saints Hudds Catalans Cas and Wire this season, and given Wigan a good game away who have hammered almost everyone they've played at home this season.
Your Super 8s should be as exciting as ours (Wire) and Catalans. We are inconsistent but have enough quality that when we click we can beat ANYONE. That why we're in the 8 and not going to be playing Halifax and Sheffield!
By the way Hull aren't the worst fans in the league nor are you the best. In Super League, like in many other sports, sets of fans are generally as decent as each other on average from week-to-week. Sometimes you'll get a sheeyite one like the other night, or you'll take 1800 to Leeds and rock it, then take 1000 to Wire and barely sing but then rock it at home the week after against Rovers. And every club's fans are like that.
Ive never seen a set of fans top Wire's at Widnes for the 2009 CC semi final against the Pies, that was just amazing! and we sold about 35000 tickets or Wembley for the 2010 CC Final. But I've also seen us beaten at home to Saints and we didn't sing once after the first five minutes, seen us take barely a few hundred to the KC, and seen us only take just about 17500 to Old Trafford for the 2013 GF. But I wouldn't call us the best fans or the worst fans on the back of any of those things.
Post subject: Re: Are we the worst fans in rugby league??
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:57 pm
Hessle Roader
Player Coach
Joined: Oct 07 2006 Posts: 4928 Location: Drypool Bridge - watching out for invaders from the East.
BuckleyStreetWire wrote:Seven weeks of misery? You've beaten Saints Hudds Catalans Cas and Wire this season, and given Wigan a good game away who have hammered almost everyone they've played at home this season.
Your Super 8s should be as exciting as ours (Wire) and Catalans. We are inconsistent but have enough quality that when we click we can beat ANYONE. That why we're in the 8 and not going to be playing Halifax and Sheffield!
How dare you come on preaching positivity. Don't you know that the default position for many folk on here is abject misery. In their eyes the owner, coach, players and indeed fans have no idea about rugby and so are content to watch rubbish every week.
That, of course, isn't the true position and like you and many fellow supporters of FC I believe that "on the day" we are capable of beating most teams. Lets hope my faith isn't misplaced!!
Best of luck next weekend, I'll be an honorary wire for the day.
Post subject: Re: Are we the worst fans in rugby league??
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:30 pm
frepneyboy
International Star
Joined: Dec 29 2011 Posts: 3607 Location: Back row of Threepenny, forever
Jake the Peg wrote:We bend over and take a near 50 point bumming at home and you expect everyone to stay to the end and cheer the team off the field? Are you for real?
I'm sure the chocolate chuckers stayed and clapped
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